Love in HP (was Re: Harry's protection)
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Wed Sep 15 00:38:20 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 112966
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "arrowsmithbt"
<arrowsmithbt at b...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" <foxmoth at q...>
wrote:
> ?>
> > I'd say there is loads of unselfish love in the books--
sacrificial
> > love is only the most spectacular example of it.
> >
>
> Give me ten examples.
> Should be easy if there's 'loads', but I think you'll have great
difficulty
> in doing so.
>
> In fact, love of any sort in much thinner on the ground than most
> posters realise. Count 'em up and see.
>
> Kneasy
hmmmm a tall order but here goes (but bear in mind this is a gut
response and so lots more *do* exist - AND I'm not a fast typer
even!):
(Noting that Love as in 'he loves her/SHIP love' (romantic love) IS
sparse in JKR because that's not what the books are about -
Harry/Cho for example never even gets going and then is over - but
to take a much wider definition such as the love a parent has for
their child, a servant has for their master, an honourable person
has for their beliefs etc, etc):
Of course, Harry displays unselfish love repeatedly - his 'saving
people' fixation (or whatever it was Hermione accused him of) -
always for (in his mind) noble motives and usually at personal risk
in one way or another.
SS/PS [1] recuing a poor beleaguered python despite knowing it'll
invoke Vernon Dursley's rage [2] rescuing Neville's remembrall (and
dignity) at the risk of expulsion, [3] rescuing Hermione from the
troll, [4] rescuing the stone including Ron's sacrifice, [5]
Quirrel's sacrifice for his master. [6] Rescuing Hagrid from his
rashness with Norbert, [7] Firenze going against type
CoS [8] Dobby's going against type to warn Harry, [8] Hagrid's
rescuing Aragog at the expense of expulsion, [9] rescuing Ginny from
the chamber and not leaving Gilderoy behind.
PoA [9] Harry's love of his parents (not just anger) forces strong
magic to silence Aunt Marge at the possible expense of all he holds
valuable otherwise (WW) [10] Rescue of Buckbeak and, of course,
sirius. [11] Rescue, if you will, of Pettigrew's 'worthless' life
GoF [11] Rescue of triwizard 2nd task 'victims' [12] return of
Diggory's body
OotP [13] Arguably, all members of OotP are showing their love of
Good over evil by being members at great personal expense potentially
[14] rescue of Sirius (again), to say nothing of his fellows, only
he fails [15] Off scene we hear of many OotPvI members who 'gave
their life', including Molly's brothers Fabian and Gideon. [16]
hagrid getting beaten up for his love of his brother, [17] DA
members risks for 'what is right' [18] Firenze again
There are, of course many other loves, especially maternal which JKR
knows and how (read her biography about her own mum and recall that
until recently and in most of the formative years Jessica was all
JKR had). Examples include Mrs Weasley's love in the tear-jerking
Gof scene and in OotP boggart encounter, Mrs Diggory's, Mrs
Crouch's, Petunia's for Dudley and not least Lily's for Harry.
Also Snape - who does he love (if anyone) and why? I believe he'll
turn out to have extremely noble motives despite his inherent bitter
nastiness (whether act or uncontrollable side-effect). He is nasty
through and through in the most petty ways quite often and yet when
called for does the most noble things.
...And Dumbledore ... scheming plotter or deeply loving?
Lastly, Harry necessarily has little love in his life - whenever he
comes close to achieving it, it is snatched away - nothing ever
approaches the love he has lost (mum and dad) - I suspect this is
necessary for the denoument.
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