THEORY: Voldemort's plans for Harry
justcarol67
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Wed Sep 15 05:00:56 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 112997
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, macfotuk at y... wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "cubfanbudwoman"
> <susiequsie23 at s...> wrote:
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> <snip>
>
> > SSSusan:
> > These are very intriguing thoughts, Aura, especially since it has
> > been recently speculated that what Voldy used at GH was not AK.
>
> <snip>
>
> JKR said this August:
>
> The first question that I have never been askedit has probably been
> asked in a chatroom but no one has ever asked meis, "Why didn't
> Voldemort die?" Not, "Why did Harry live?" but, "Why didn't
> Voldemort die?" The killing curse rebounded, so he should have died.
> Why didn't he? At the end of Goblet of Fire he says that one or more
> of the steps that he took enabled him to survive. You should be
> wondering what he did to make sure that he did not dieI will put it
> that way. I don't think that it is guessable.
>
> Mac now: She (JKR) talks of a killing curse. There's only ever been
> one kind so far (AK) and I think that is what was attempted -
> remembering that LV's AK might well be MUCH more powerful than any
> other wizard's given what Bellatrix has said about having to really
> *mean* your unforgiveable curses.I made a post before about why the
> Harry AK didn't come out of LV's wand during the GoF priori
> incantatem replay but either JKR flinted it or else because no-one
> actually died (which is not to say nothing happened) then maybe it
> wasn't 'counted'.
Carol:
I'm pretty sure that I made the same point about JKR referring to the
curse used on Harry as the Killing Curse, but I couldn't remember
where the quote was. (I looked for it in the Edinburgh article on her
site and gave up. Thanks for the quote. I agree with you; there's only
one killing curse. As I said earlier, I think the green light Harry
remembers was from the curse used on him. Either the door was shut
when Lily was killed (JKR says somewhere that he didn't see her die)
or it was just a gleam of light viewed sideways, no more spectacular
than the light from, say, "Stupefy," whereas the light from the curse
that struck him hit him (literally) head on and would have been
blinding as it struck.
As for why the AK didn't show up in the Priori Incantem sequence, it's
probably because the curse failed and there was no ghostly figure to
correspond with it. If some other curse had been used that had its own
"ghost" (like the shriek that signifies a Crucio), that curse, too,
should have shown up, but there was nothing. As you say, it could be a
flint, but it's certainly not evidence that the curse used was not an AK.
JKR says it was *the* Killing Curse and asks why Voldemort didn't die.
But that's a topic for another thread. My point here it that it *was*
an AK, and it should have killed Harry. Only his mother's protection
(which I am sure involved more than her deliberate self-sacrifice)
saved him.
Carol, who still thinks that "no countercurse" is not the same as "no
protection provided *before* the fact."
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