Weak and Evil!Fudge and the missing wands (was: Re: Old Question
huntergreen_3
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Wed Sep 15 08:53:28 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 113003
Eloise wrote:
>>Aha!
This is where Evil!Fudge started, because, of course, Sirius' wand
was not evidence of his guilt, but, if it had been PI'd, evidence of
his innocence. It is my contention that Peter's 'guilty' wand was
substituted for Sirius'. I don't think Peter's wand would have been
destroyed in the explosion. The explosion, remember, was controlled,
designed to give the illusion that Peter himself had been blown up,
which we know he wasn't. I believe that he planted the robes (in
other words, they were nothing to do with the explosion, either) at
the scene along with the finger as it seems that animagi's robes
transform with them. <<
HunterGreen:
Far be it for me to argue with an ESE!Fudge contention, but couldn't
Peter have been the one to plant the bloody robes there? How would
Fudge know to bring Peter-sized bloody robes with him? Peter, wearing
some sort of underclothes, might have taken off his outer-robes
before he transformed (perhaps right after the explosion, when Sirius
was -- I assume -- disoriented). He might have tossed his wand aside
to help further framed!Sirius (he certainly doesn't have it when he's
forced to transform in PoA).
The authorites would have confiscated Sirius' wand (at the scene most
likely) and if it was PI'd, they might have tested Peter's wand
thinking that Black switched it, since Peter was "obviously dead" at
this point, and therefore wouldn't have done the curse that resulted
in his own death (however, would they see an echo of a finger cutting
off curse? or did peter perhaps cut it off some other way? (and now
*my* finger hurts)).
Eloise wrote (in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/35393 )
> He is far too friendly with Lucius Malfoy.
> The secret chamber under the Malfoy's living room doesn't appear to
>have been searched, despite Harry and Ron finding out about it in
>CoS and Ron's determination to tell his father.
HunterGreen:
Ah, I never thought of that one. Why was there no followup on that?
Eloise:
> So... What if Fudge was one of Rookwood's network? He could have
>been in on Pettigrew's diappearance, which has all the hallmarks of
>being planned (albeit, it must have been arranged rapidly, and was
>another of those plans which could so easily have gone wrong) and
>could have framed Sirius.
HunterGreen:
This implies Peter planning it with someone else, which I have
trouble believing. Why would anyone else be interested in framing
Sirius? Why not let Peter be caught? Peter isn't very loyal to
Voldemort, and has questionable power as a wizard. Framing Sirius was
only to save himself, and with Voldemort gone, he has no more
usefullness anyway.
Eloise:
> Think for a moment. One of the biggest problems with Pettigrew's
>escape plan is the evidence which Sirius' wand could give via *prior
>incantato*. Sirius' descent into hysteria and his guilt-
>induced 'confession' couldn't be predicted. If he had kept calm and
>demanded that his wand be allowed to give its evidence, his
>innocence might have been demonstrated instantly.
HunterGreen:
Not with Crouch at the helm. He was the one, after all, who ordered
Sirius to Azkaban without a trial. Fudge didn't have that much power
at this point.
Eloise:
> Now there is also the possibility that Pettigrew *has* rescued
>Voldemort's wand from the rubble. Could this too, be passed on to
>Fudge, who then could have returned it to Pettigrew after his escape
>from Harry et al. Alternatively, Fudge could have passed it on to
>Lucius Malfoy to add to his collection of Voldemort memorabilia.
HunterGreen:
I love the term 'Voldemort Memorabilia' (o;
Peter could have taken Voldemort's wand and hid it somewhere to
retrieve later. If Malfoy had it, did he sneak into the Malfoy Manor
after the events of PoA to steal it? I think that Malfoy would have
some sort of protection on his Voldemort collection (otherwise, I can
see Draco bringing friends down there to show off and some of it
getting broken).
Eloise:
> I admit the evidence is circumstantial, but it *could*
>work....couldn't it?
HunterGreen:
I definitely agree there is more to Fudge than what he is thought to
be (I can't say more than meets the eye, since his corruption and
borderline evilness are on the surface). I have this question: if
Fudge isn't involved with DEs or Voldemort, why *didn't* they recruit
him? A power-hungry, pure-blood believer who is friends with Malfoy
would be an extremely easy recruitment.
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