Weak and Evil!Fudge and the missing wands (was: Re: Old Question

[huntergreen_3]

No: HPFGUIDX 113018

Eloise:
>>Well, what I was trying to say was that just as Peter cut off hist
finger before he transformed, he also dropped the robes. I am
assuming he transformed *in* his robes, otherwise if he'd needed to
resume human form, he presumably would have done so in his underwear
(if he wore underwear and there seems to be some doubt as to what
wizards do and do not wear under traditional robes) so I assume that
he brought an extra set with him.<<

HunterGreen:
Perhaps he had a cloak on or something (it was October), and that's 
what Fudge meant when he said 'robes'? He could have took his cloak 
off and let his bleeding finger drip over it.

Eloise (on Sirius' wand):
>>I doubt any testing was done whatsoever.<<

HunterGreen:
I agree. Especially if Sirius was being quiet as you say and not 
demanding that they do any tests, the wand was probably snapped in 
half before there was any chance of an investigation.

Eloise:
>>Well, the only thing I can say is to repeat that Peter's
disappearance seems to be *planned* and that it was a plan waiting to
go wrong if not aided. If Peter went to Fudge in a panic, told him
what had happened (natural allies, those two, I'd say, both morally
weak individuals looking out for their own skins) Fudge might have
agreed to ensure the blame fell on Sirius to aid Peter's escape (he
need not have known about the animagus thing, in fact). Also, if
Peter were caught and he *did* have any information on Fudge, then he
might have given it. In fact he might have threatened to.<<

HunterGreen:
Yes, I can see that. The Potters died the night of Halloween and 
Peter disappeared the next day, that gives him a chance to contact 
Fudge in between. I realize you probably mean that it was planned 
ahead of time (in that week between the secret-keeper charm and 
Voldemort showing up in Godric's Hollow, I assume), but it makes more 
sense to me if it was more of a spur of the moment thing. 

Eloise:
>>The MOM seems to have got to that scene much more quickly than they
did to the Potters'. With a team of twenty hit wizards. Prior
knowledge that something was going to happen?<<

HunterGreen:
And it wasn't one of those hit wizards or an auror (am I right in 
assuming Fudge wasn't an auror?), it was *Fudge* who was first on the 
scene. Alone, no less. There quick enough that Sirius hadn't left yet 
(which had to be fairly quick, I can't see why Sirius would hang 
around there. Emotionally stunned or not, standing in the middle of 
the street surrounded by bodies is not a bright thing to do).

Eloise:
>>And I am intrigued by Fudge's later personal interest in the Sirius
situation. It just seems *too* personal.<<

HunterGreen:
He certainly seems to be nearby with a lot of the big Sirius events. 
Personally, I think that he (without Sirius knowing it) helped Sirius 
escape Azkaban so he (Fudge) could have a reason to send the 
Dementors to Hogwarts to kill Harry. Sirius' escape is a little too 
easy (IMO), and the dementors are strangely interested in Harry, even 
when their target (Sirius) is a few feet away.

HunterGreen previously:
> Peter could have taken Voldemort's wand and hid it somewhere to
> retrieve later.

Eloise:
If Peter took it, then wouldn't he hold onto it in case he needed it?
I'm still working on the assumption here that animagi take their
wands with them. It's not like he was expecting Voldemort to return.

HunterGreen:
But where is it then in PoA? Perhaps he was worried that if someone 
forced him to transform that it would be evidence that he was in 
league with Voldemort. I agree that Animagi probably can take their 
wands with them, but it appears that Peter didn't. 

Eloise:
>>I dare say that the reality of Death Eating is a little messy for 
Fudge's taste.<<

HunterGreen:
I agree with you. I see Fudge more as a Death Eater sympathetizer. 
After all, its said that Voldemort had lots of followers (the 
original order was outnumbered 2 to 1, and we know that there were at 
least 10-20 in the first Order), and there aren't THAT many spots in 
DE circle, so perhaps not everyone serves him directly? There must be 
people who help out Death Eaters (either directly or indirectly) 
without ever seeing or speaking with Voldemort themself. I can see 
good ol' Pure-Blood enthusiast Fudge doing certain favors for Malfoy 
in exchange for some of that Malfoy money (either directly, or to 
charitable causes). 
Its hard to trust someone who seems so comfortable with Dementors.