Lupin and Boggart+Legilimency
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Wed Sep 15 21:20:33 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 113073
Pippin:
> > Lupin never manages to turn the orb into something funny,
and he never uses Riddikulus to make the boggart explode.<<
>
> Olivier
>
> Ah Pippin, I know you always suspect Lupin whenever
something fishy happens, but here, isn't it a bit too far fetched?
>
> Lupin does take care of Molly's boggart, does teach the spell
very properly (which implies that he has at least some
knowledge of it).<
Pippin:
It's very fishy how he does it though:
---
Lupin looked from Mrs. Weasley to the dead Harry on the floor
and seemed to understand in an instant. Pulling out his own
wand, he said, very firmly and clearly, "Riddikulus."
Harry's body vanished. A silvery orb hung in the air over the spot
where it had lain. Lupin waved his wand once more and the orb
vanished in a puff of smoke.
-----
The spell, though properly spoken, quite clearly fails, since the
boggart assumes the silvery orb form which Lupin fears. Lupin
then waves his wand, doesn't say the magic words, and the
boggart vanishes with no mention of an explosion. He can't have
done the riddikulus spell silently, because we know that a silent
spell is weaker than a spoken one, and the spoken one didn't
work.
Also, there's no explosion, just a vanishing--which could be the
result of a vanishing spell. Granted vanishing is more complex
magic than riddikulus, but you have to be able to laugh to do
riddikulus, and I can't remember Lupin laughing at all.
I know the teachers on the list are tired of this old quote, but as
George Bernard Shaw said, "Those who can, do. Those who
can't, teach."
Olivier:
> It is true that in PoA he never destroys the Boggart. Why would
he destroy it when it is such a nice practical test for students?<
Pippin:
But he does allow Neville to destroy a Boggart. "Forward Neville,
and finish him off.'"
Oliver:
> As a side note, I have a question for you. In PoA, flight of a the
fat lady, when Lupin and Harry have tea, it is suggested (in the
light of OoP) that Lupin reads Harry's mind.
> <snip>
>
> If we accept that idea, it is fair to surmise that Lupin knows
Sirius has met Harry.<
> Now, with my pro-Lupin mind, you guess what I make of that,
but I was wondering if you had already considered it.<
Pippin:
If Lupin was not really asleep in the train compartment, he
already knew that Sirius was coming to Hogwarts. But it is
interesting that soon after the episode you quote, Sirius is
spotted in the stands by Harry, and possibly by
transformed!Lupin as well. Of course the dementors just happen
to pick that moment for a light snack.
Pippin
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