Snape and Harry again.

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Fri Sep 17 21:27:13 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 113256

> 
> Pippin:
> 
> The trouble is, there's already been a reversal. Harry went from 
> seeing his father as the man who represented (much as he did 
> for Snape) everything he wanted to be, to someone whom even 
> his friends admitted was an arrogant little berk. It seems to me 
> what you suspect is an un-reversal, something that will put 
> James, Lupin and Sirius back on the pedestal, leaving only Peter  
> to have fallen from grace.  



Alla:

I don't know about Nora, but since me and her are thinking somewhat 
similar about that topic (I apologise, if I am wrong, Nora), but I 
definitely think that we are due for another reversal, simply because 
two more books are coming.

I don't expect a complete reversal, Pippin, I DON'T WANT James and 
Sirius back on pedestal, but I definitely expect to see Snape 
behaving just as nasty towards Marauders as they were to him in that 
scene.

It is  HIGHLY SPECULATIVE as of today and just as Nora, I will bow to 
reality, if things will be simple and James and Sirius were just 
bullies for no reason at all ( No, I don't think that bullying person 
for a reason is right).

But , so far I am convinced that hints are there and till I am proven 
to be wrong, I'll hold on to this.

Yes, so far we only heard from Sirius that Snape knew more Dark Arts 
that a seventh year. Yes, we only heard from Sirius that Snape never 
missed a chance to curse James, but I think Sirius is just reliable 
canon witness as anybody else, because we don't have anybody else. 
yet.

Sirius knew what the Darkness is from inside. He, after all, tried to 
escape it when he was sixteen. Come to think of it, I think he is 
very reliable witness despite his hatred of Snape.

And, we actually have some objective evidence that Snape got involved 
with Dark Arts at one point of his life, because he DID become a DE.

I don't think it is a big leap to assume that he got involved with 
them at quite early period of his life, although of course we don't 
know that yet.

Pippin:

 Sirius and James are dead, so the only point I can see in giving 
> Harry more back story about them is so that Harry can 
> understand himself better.  Does he need to see himself as as a 
> saintly being who can do no wrong, or as a struggling mortal, 
> guilty of sin and error, but not beyond redemption all the same?
> 

Alla:

Oh, no, no, no. Please let you be wrong. :o) I want a back story to 
know what happened between Sirius and Snape. I want to know what 
happened during the Prank night. If that helps Harry understand 
himself better, great, if not, I still want to know that.





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