ESE!Fudge
huntergreen_3
patientx3 at aol.com
Sat Sep 18 11:50:48 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 113282
Mike wrote:
>>How many coincidences can there be before there is too many to
overlook? Here's what I've thought of.
1. Fudge turning up all through PoA, seemingly running the whole
Sirius-Pettigrew line. (thanks mhbobbin for that wonderul post
detailing all the exact suspecious behavior spots for PoA)
HunterGreen:
At the very least its clear that the Dementors are *specifically*
interested in Harry in PoA. Either someone told them to go after
Harry or they are acting on their own. So far, Fudge and Umbridge are
the only people we've seen communitcating with Dementors.
>>2. Adamently refusing to believe LV has returned at the end of GoF,
despite the fact that SOMETHING happened when Harry was taken away by
portkey, Cedric Diggory was murdered, and a very loyal DE was
proclaiming under vertiserum what truly happened.<<
And his refusal goes from reasonable to ridiculous over the course of
his argument with Dumbledore, finally culminating in him outright
ignoring the Dark Mark on Snape's arm. Whether or not Fudge is ESE!
its very hard to believe that he really doesn't think Voldemort is
back (he's either ESE! or *exteremely* corrupt, pretty much to the
point of being a different type of evil).
>>3. Fudge's Dementor immediately ensures that Crouch Jr. keeps that
story to those in Dumbledore's inner circle. It appears that he would
have done this with Sirius too had Harry and Hermione not used the
Time Turner...<<
Again, I ask, why did he have a Dementor with him that day? We know
he wasn't really buying into the 'strange happenings' at Hogwarts,
and a school contest hardly seems like a 'danger' to him. If he
called the Dementor *after* Harry disappeared from the maze, how did
he get one there so fast?
>>4. Massively discrediting Harry and Dumbledore, forcing Dumbledore
to resign his positions of power in the Ministry (Warlocks Council
etc). Completely turing a "blind-eye" to all the things that point
towards LV's return. (Bertha jorkins... disappeares in ALBANIA of all
places... etc)
5. Appointing a very ruthless Umbridge to take over Hogwarts with the
aid of his Educational Decrees. As if Umbridge wouldn't have had some
really important Ministry work to do being Senior Undersecretary....
or was this more important?
6. Questionable people in higher places in the Ministry. Umbridge,
Bagman, Imperio'd Percy?<<
7. His close relationship with known DE Lucius Malfoy (including a
private meeting with him on the day of Harry's hearing), and his
defense of Lucius (in GoF) having nothing to do with Lucius' claim of
the imperius curse ("Malfoy was cleared!" said Fudge, visibly
affronted. "A very old family - donations to excellent causes -" [GoF
chpt 36]).
8. A point was made of him being a pure-blood enthusiast in GoF, even
though it didn't have much to do with the argument him and Dumbledore
were having (re-read that paragraph in GoF - also in chpt 36 - the
purity of blood comment is very out of place). I would say being a
proud blood purist is at least suscipcious.
>>However, there is one reason that I can think of that disproves his
being a DE. Why would Lucius Malfoy have to continually bribe him if
he was a DE and being ordered to do this by LV?<<
Well, Malfoy has two motivations, one being his own and one being
Voldemort's. Bribing Fudge has to do with his own desire for power
and a high place in society.
I think that Fudge is not a death eater, but a sympathsizer with
their cause, getting bribes from Lucius is just a fringe benefit. I
doubt that Fudge has ever had direct contact with Voldemort, he seems
better suited to work through Lucius and on his own.
-HunterGreen AKA Rebecca (who bought The Sims 2 yesterday and noticed
there's a lamp called 'Prisoner of Azkalamp')
PS: Other threads on this subject:
'Over Kill with Dementors'
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/98014
-Kneasy's reply in this thread is where the ESE!Fudge stuff steps in:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/98040
'Something wrong with this Fudge'
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/106972
(that is the thread where mhbobbin posted the msg referenced
upthread)
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