Malfoy Sr's Intent with TMR's Diary (CoS)

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Sun Sep 19 01:01:01 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 113331

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Geoff Bannister" 
<gbannister10 at a...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, macfotuk at y... wrote:
> 
> Mac:
> 
> > LM may simply have known that the diary could be a means to open 
> the 
> > chamber, but if so how was that a *direct* threat to Harry and 
why 
> > should Dobby choose Harry to warn rather than all Hogwart's 
> > students? 
> > 
> > Does LM really want Voldemort back? (not my original idea I 
freely 
> > acknowledge). But if not, what is his own agenda for wanting to 
> kill 
> > harry and/or open the chamber and/or reincarnating Tom Riddle?
> 
> Geoff:
> As I wrote in message 113085, I think that Malfoy was merely 
trying 
> to climb to the top in the absence of Voldemort. I do not think 
that 
> getting him rebodied [sounds like an old bus! :-)] was on his 
agenda 
> if he could avoid it.
> 
> However, what does he know in full about the Chamber? We know from 
> Draco's comments that the Chamber was opened 50 years ago and that 
a 
> girl died. We know from Binns that the Chamber was supposed to 
> contain a monster (the horror within).
> 
> How much more detailed information does Lucius have or do we have 
for 
> that matter at that point in the story? Is Malfoy working in the 
dark 
> just knowing that the Chamber contains something which could be 
used 
> in an attempt to unseat Dumbledore and destabilise the Ministry 
but 
> not knowing the specifics?
> 

It's VERY unclear what Malfoy Sr 'knew. How can he have known about 
the chamber unless LV told him or else he communicated with the 
diary? But if he *did* speak with Diary!Tom wouldn't he have found 
out that LV is a dreaded half-blood? Does this matter to Malfoy? 

It does seem very clear, however, from Dobby's warning that he 
(Dobby) is convinced that Malfoy Sr is about to hatch " ... A plot 
to make terrible things happen at Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and 
Wizardry this year ... " " ... 'Dobby has known about it for 
*months* ..." (asterisks my emphasis) and just before this " ... If 
Harry Potter goes back to Hogwarts, he will be in *mortal* 
danger ..." (again my emphasis).

He wasn't just using the diary on an off-chance.

I'm intrigued by how Binns knew so much when, as kneasy points out, 
DD *apparently* knows so little. DD knows everything, including to 
get in a supply of mandarakes.

None of this seems to get us closer to the half-blood prince, though 
I note that one only has to have a single non-wizard/witch 
grandparent to be considered half-blood (i.e. Hermione's kids with a 
wizard would still be half-blood).





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