Difficult Choice / Warlock / Hag / Homorphus / HarryVsSnape / Kreachur / Keys

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No: HPFGUIDX 113476

Pippin wrote previously:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/113227 :
> 
> << How would Harry laughing off Snape's treatment of him give
> Snape more enjoyment? If Harry cheerfully said, "I can see I'll
> have to study more if I want to do well in this class, sir" would
> Snape derive some twisted pleasure from it? >>

Catlady:
> No, it would enrage Snape so that Snape would give Harry a 
detention
> and lost-points for insolence with absolutely no excuse. 

Alla:

Oh, thank you very much for saying that. I think we had the detailed 
discussion on what Harry should do to improve his relationship with 
Snape and I was of the opinion that NOTHING would help it, until 
Snape would see Harry for Harry.

If Harry would treat Snape differently, he would do it because he 
decides to be a better person than Snape and I strongly believe that 
he would do it at the end, right now it is just not the time for it 
for the plot reasons , but I sincerely doubt that it would help 
anything.


Pippin wrote previously:
> << If Harry said, "I was sorry to learn that my father treated you 
so
> badly when you were at school, and I wish there was something I 
could
> do about it" would you think less of him? >>

Catlady: 
> Do you think Snape would manage to die of shame on the spot if 
Harry
> said that?


Alla:

LOL! I most certaindly don't think so. I think Snape.
 would find some nonexistant irony in Harry's words and finds an 
excuse to take more points of him 


Catlady:

> OTOH, none of the House Elves at Hogwarts call Dumbledore a
> Mudblood-loving blood-traitor who broke his poor mother's hearts, 

Alla:

Nods her head in agreement.


Catlady:
> Only grace (which is bestowed by God, gods,
> Jungian collective unconscious, whatever) can improve Snape by 
making
> him feel compassion instead of pleasure at someone else's pain, can
> improve the alcoholic by making him not want the alcoholic 
beverage in
> front of him, can make the would-be gay person feel *arousedly
> attracted* to someone of the same sex. Snape could *seek* that 
grace
> by trying very hard to imagine what he would feel like if he were 
the
> other person, but trying is no guarantee of succeeding.
>

Alla:

I think our weekend discussion with Pippin got many people a bit 
confused. :o)

I think that Pippin was arguing that Snape is uncapable to control 
his urges to hurt other people (namely Harry) at all.(Pippin, sorry 
if I am wrong)

I was arguing that he had to try and do that, no matter how badly he 
was hurt in the past, it does not excuse him. It certainly helps us 
understand him though.

I think I agree with you there is no guarantee that he will succeed, 
but  you never know untill you try.