Lupin and Snape (PoA)

meriaugust meriaugust at yahoo.com
Tue Sep 21 22:48:53 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 113554

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "elaine_munn" 
<elaine_munn at y...> wrote:
> Hi there, I have been reading the posts for some time but have 
never 
> posted before. I enjoy reading your theories and wondered what you 
> all thought about this.
> 
> I am currently reading PoA (again) and a couple of things have 
stood 
> out to me. (I apologise if these have been discussed before, but I 
> couldn't find them in the archive.)
> 
> Ok firstly, when Lupin saw Harry, Hermione, Ron and then Pettigrew 
on 
> the marauders map, under the invisibility cloak, did he not see 
> Hermione and Harry arrive after they had used the time turner? 
Could 
> it be he just didn't notice them through shock of seeing Pettigrew 
or 
> maybe just didn't find the right time to say something? I would 
love 
> to hear what you guys think.
> 

Meri: There are many theories about how the Marauder's Map works, 
which I can't all remember from memory, but I would check the 
Lexicon, as I am sure I recall reading an excellent essay about just 
this sort of thing. My personal belief is that the MM being 
something both very magical and very perceptive (ie: recognizing 
Prof. Snape and insulting him) the MM shows only what the viewer is 
either looking for, or chooses to notice. The Hogwarts castle and 
grounds being so big would support a more limited view being shown 
on the map itself. So Lupin, who was looking for Hermione, Harry AND 
Ron, would either not have noticed or not been able to see just 
Harry and Hermione. But I do think that JKR has sort of painted 
herself into a corner with that "the Marauder's Map never lies" 
comment. 

> Secondly, in the shrieking shack the door opened and a floor board 
> creaked just before the whole story about what really happened at 
> Godricks Hollow came out. Then after the story was told Snape 
> appeared from under Harry's cloak. I wonder how much of the whole 
> tale Snape heard? Enough to know Sirius was innocent MMMmmm.......

Meri: No, Snape was not in the room long enough to hear or see 
anything that would convince him of Sirius' innocence. Scabbers was 
not revealed to be Peter Pettigrew until after HRH knocked Snape out 
with their wands and after that he remained unconscious until after 
TT!Harry conjured the Patronus and Wormtail was long gone. The whole 
story of Godric's Hollow didn't come out until after Snape was out 
cold, IIRC. Snape never actually saw Pettigrew, the only proof of 
Sirius' innocence. 

Meri, wondering whether or not Snape would have believed it even if 
he had seen Pettigrew...





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