A tunnel, a diary and a memory.....

hpfgu_elf relay_hpfgu at fictionalley.org
Wed Sep 22 15:20:04 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 113594

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Geoff Bannister" 
<gbannister10 at a...> wrote:
> Why create the diary at all? Does he think he is going to suffer 
 amnesia when he walks out of the Hogwarts gates? He is not 
going to  waste those years; he has the information safely locked 
up in his  head.
> 
> Where has the diary been in the intervening 50 years? Has 
Lucius had  it (how old was he in 1942?)? <


Pippin:

Wow! You could be on to something here. Maybe the diary wasn't 
sixteen year old Tom Riddle's creation at all--maybe it was made 
by present day Voldemort!  With a little help from Quirrell?


*Dobby knows that Harry defeated Voldemort "just weeks" ago, 
but the diary plot has been underway "for months"

*JKR says on her website that she can't tell us what would have 
happened if the Diary plot had succeeded but that it would have 
made present-day Voldemort much stronger. 

* Diary!Riddle says Voldemort is his past, present and future... 

*Harry thinks, when he gets the map, that it's the same kind of 
magical object as the diary. 

*Ernie says a Dark Lord wouldn't want another Dark Lord 
competing with him.


What if  Quirrellmort created the diary, using the same kind of 
magic Lupin used to help create the Marauder's Map? Maybe 
Quirrell slipped it into Lucius Malfoy's possession the same way 
Malfoy slipped it into Ginny's. We know Quirrell was in Diagon 
Alley the same day that Lucius was there, and that Quirrell was 
there to pick up a book on vampires. He could have met Lucius 
in Flourish and Blotts.

Voldemort's goal would be to create a human body 
that he could return to once he had obtained the stone. 

Lucius would think that the diary is genuine, an artifact of the 
Dark Lord's early years, why should he not? He makes his plot 
with Diary!Riddle, not realizing that present-day Voldemort is 
involved. Dobby, of course, would not know this either. Malfoy's 
goal would be to dislodge Dumbledore from Hogwarts and 
discredit Arthur -- I'm sure if he had thought there was any 
chance the Diary would aid corporeal Voldemort's return, 
he'd have chucked the thing down a toilet himself.


Pippin
who would like to make a case for ESE!Lupin being behind it all, 
but  has to admit that Quirrell would do as well
 





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