Snape and Harry again.

romuluslupin1 romuluslupin1 at yahoo.com
Wed Sep 22 21:31:13 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 113613

Magda:
> >> Well, as I pointed out in my post earlier today, we have three 
> people
> > who make comments indicating that the James-Snape feud wasn't an
> > equal one: Lily ("What's he ever done to you?"), Lupin ("Did I 
ever
> > tell you to lay off Snape?") and Sirius himself ("Well you made 
us
> > feel guilty sometimes..." and "...arrogant berks, you mean").  
> > 
> > No one has addressed those comments or explained how they could 
> jibe
> > with a Snape who was could give as good as he got.  Lily also 
> points
> > out that James hexed people "who annoyed you just because you 
> can". 
> > Not "people who were bullies" or "people who were hassling little
> > kids" - but just people who annoyed him.  
> > 
> 
> 
> Alla:
> 
  Well, Lily's comment is the easiest to address. Whatever 
> ideology underlined James/Snape or Sirius/Snape possible 
conflict , she may not have known about it. She after all only 
started to go out with James in his seventh year and may not have 
known much about him except what was happening on the surface.
 (snip)

  Sirius' "arrogant berks". Well, they were "berks". I am just 
> saying that it is possible OR NOT that Snape was one too.
> 

Romulus Lupin, jumping in late as usual:
Maybe I'm the only one, but I remember AD saying somewhere that 
James' and Snape's relationship was similar to the one between Harry 
and Malfoy, which sort of implies both gave as good as they got. 
(Well, seeing how things are going, DM may be the one who always 
starts things between them, but from his POV he's the victim and 
Harry's the aggressor. After all he's the one who walks away 
unscathed).
OTOH, when they're discussing James abd Sirius (and they don't know 
the trio are eavesdropping), Hagrid, McGonagall, Mme Rosmerta all 
remember them fondly, which to me implies they were troublemaker, 
yes, but in a friendly way. I doubt the Hogwarts teacher would view 
JP and SB so affectionately if they really were the jerks some 
posters make them out to be. I know a lot of posters will disagree, 
but when I was at school the teachers always knew who the nasty 
bullies were, even when they couldn't or wouldn't do anything to 
restrain them. And contrary to what seems to be the general opinion 
here, the bullies were never really liked by the rest of the 
students. 

As for Lily's comment, I always thought she was the one James 
tormented just because he could, because he wanted to get her 
attention, you know, the WW counterpart to pulling a girl's tresses 
to have her notice you. It happens in RL, why shouldn't it be true 
in the WW? A few months ago one of our doctors was interested in one 
of the nurses. She ignored him, though, so he started picking on 
her. Last week a new nurse came. She did something wrong and the 
doctor justly reprimanded her. The first nurse jumped down his 
throat and told him "Stop picking on the nurses just because you 
can". Sounds familiar? Mmm, thought so.

Romulus Lupin, who won't believe the Marauders were any worse than 
the rest unless its spelt out in black and white and in capital 
letters





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