Avada Kedavra and Godric's Hollow

[cubfanbudwoman]

No: HPFGUIDX 113656

SSSusan wrote:
> > I guess I've just figured that it's the powerful 
> > reaction of an AK hitting an ancient-magic countercharm like 
> > Lily's (and possibly some power of Harry's own) that caused the 
> > blow-up.  
> > 
> > Of course, that would beg the question of how Harry was 
> > physically okay, other than the scar, when all around him was 
> > devastation.  Unless there was some kind of "outward blast" away 
> > from Harry?  

 
Kneasy:
> But according to canon there isn't a countercharm to an AK.
> If something doesn't walk like a duck, doesn't quack like a duck,
> and instead of paddling on the pond shows every sign of going
> belly-up, why persist in calling it a duck?
> 
> This so-called 'AK' behaves nothing like any other AK described,
> so why not explore the dreadful possibility that it's not an AK?
> Would that be such an earth-shattering concept?
> Come on fans, stretch your imagination a bit.


SSSusan:
Okay, okay, so I used the wrong term.  But whatever it was--not 
a "countercharm"--it was Lily's "protection" which saved Harry, per 
DD.  Now it may not have been a *charm*, but it *was* whatever she 
did.  Did she do SOMETHING in advance, or was it merely the action of 
her sacrificing herself?  Whatever "it" was, DD called it "ancient 
magic" and said that it resides in Harry's very skin.  So that 
essence--whatever it is, and whether it was a specific 
action/charm/magical protection Lily placed there or the result of 
her sacrifice for him--might have been the thing "reacting" with 
Voldy's AK.

OR...as you say...it might be something other than AK. <g>


Kneasy originally:
> > > It leaves bits of the casters mind in the target.
 
SSSusan:
> > We know DD believes the ability to speak Parseltongue was "given" 
> > to Harry by that attack. Well, as others have suggested, what if 
> > Voldy actually (accidentally, of course) put some of himself into 
> > Harry at the same time, not just a stray ability or power here or 
> > there?
> > 
> > *If* [big "if"] Harry could unseal the Chamber because a bit of 
> > the Heir of Slytherin is inside him, maybe there are other things 
> > he can do because Voldy/Tom became a part of him? Maybe he can 
> > actually CONTROL Voldy in a way he doesn't yet even realize?

 
Kneasy:
> You're gradually edging towards a theory a couple of us were banging
> on about a few months back. It's an extension of the 'Possession' 
> line. Part of Voldy is lodged in his mind and the scar is the 
> outward manifestation of this. Harry is a magically induced 
> schizophrenic. He hears voices, he acts on what they tell him. 
> Fortunately, so far it's still "in essence divided";  he hasn't 
> succumbed to  the invader - yet.
> 
> DD  did say that Parseltongue was *one* of the powers (unspecified) 
> given to Harry by Voldy. So it's reasonable to expect more....
> 
> Why is it that Harry and Voldy can share/implant thoughts, visions 
> etc. *at a distance* but Voldy doesn't seem to be able to do the 
> same with others? IMO it's because Voldy has a beach-head in 
> Harry's mind; part of him is already there and he links to it. Not 
> something that one would expect from a failed AK. 
> 
> As for Harry using these powers to defeat Voldy, well - I'm not so
> confident. As things stand it's much more likely to go the other 
> way. Let's face it, in OoP Harry  was acting like a self-centred 
> little snot most of the time, much more like one would imagine Tom 
> would behave than what one would hope from Harry. 
> Voldy!Bit seemed to be in the ascendant.
> Will Harry throw off this mind leech?
> Will Harry become a Voldy  clone? 
> Catch next years thrilling episode!


SSSusan:
Oh, the way you pick on my Harry! ;-)  He *was* self-centered, I 
suppose, but damn it, he's earned the right, hasn't he?  I mean, he 
was RIGHT when he was ticked about being left out of the loop; he was 
understandable when he felt he wasn't being trusted but had proved 
himself trustworthy by taking on Voldy again & again.  And he *was* 
foolish to not work with Snape.  Sure he was angryangstyselfcentered!
Harry, but I suspect I'd have been worse.  

Anyway...of *course* I think if Harry has these powers to defeat 
Voldy he'll use them!  He may well be tempted along the way, or 
worse, perhaps be controlled by ascendant!Voldy for a time.  But this 
is HARRY POTTER!  Of course he'll manage it in the end!  

Siriusly Snapey Susan (knowing Kneasy is surely rolling his eyes at 
this very moment)