Malfoy Sr's Intent with TMR's Diary (CoS)

[Susana da Cunha]

No: HPFGUIDX 113689

> SSSusan wrote:
> And I agree with you that we can't rule out the motive of
>restoring Voldy.  *But* "LV's not knowing about it in GoF" really
>*isn't* my argument.  It's not that Voldy doesn't KNOW; it's that
>Lucius doesn't use that first chance to MAKE SURE he knows.  "But,
>Master!  Let me tell you how hard I worked 2 years ago to bring you
>back!"  Nope.  He doesn't breath a word.  It *could* be because he
>knows the attempt was a failure.  *I* think it's simply more likely
>that it's because his goal wasn't to bring Voldy back.

Mandy wrote:
>>Or perhaps Lucius chose not to play his full hand in the GOF
graveyard?  LV comes back pissed, Lucius knows he's in trouble but
also is arrogantly confident in his current status as political
heavyweight in the WW. Lucius knows LV would be stupid to outright
kill him.  But then again Lucius also knows LV is a monomaniacal,
evil overlord. Who can be certain what Voldemort is going to do when
he's angry?  So Lucius keeps the Diary incident quiet, choosing to
keep it in reserve until he really needs it.

Personally I think Lucius's goal with the diary was to bring back a
young version of LV that Lucius believed he could control and use.
This would not be something Malfoy would not want LV finding out.
And so I think Lucius would prudently keep the whole Diary incident
as quite as possible and only bring it up when Malfoy could spin it
into the best possible outcome to suit Lucius Malfoy.<<
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Yes, finely! I've been following this thread closely and this is IMO the
best explanation. Let me add:

Voldemort is giving a speech on how *unwise* of them it was not to look for
him. He's proving a point. The first to interrupt was singled out for
punishment as an example (Avery). The last thing any of the DE would do, if
their smart or experienced in dealing with Voldemort, would be to contradict
him and force him to say "ok, maybe not you...". I'm guessing Voldy wouldn't
take it sportly.

After all, I really don't think Malfoy was facing the risk of being
punished. Voldy's comments on him weren't all that bad, specially compared
to the rest of the speech. He called him a friend and he commented he hasn't
given up on old beliefs. I thought the part about keeping a clean face to
society was actually a complement (you devil, you!).

Malfoy's reply felt very adequate to me. He' saying "I *did* want you back!
I *did*!" and Voldemort says "And yet...". He immediately shuts up and lets
him have his way (right or not). Very wise, IMO.

I would also like to add that I don't think any of them is at risk of being
killed. Voldemort is not likely to spare those who came back to him - the
ones who haven't done severe enough betrayals to be too scared to show up.
He will kill the ones who *didn't* show up, and that's a very good message.

Of course this is a non-answer on the subject. I'm saying even if Malfoy
wanted to bring Voldemort back through Diary!Tom, he would still give that
answer to Voldy. I'd think he had his own agenda, but I can't figure it out.
Mandy's explanation works for me, but... I can't stop thinking it had
something to do with "all those raids".

Also, "a plot to make terrible things happen" doesn't sound to me as "let's
kill some muggle-borns". But I do think Malfoy was leading the DE's at the
Quidditch cup. Was he trying to change public opinion about muggle-borns
'Salazar's way'? I'm keen on the explanation that he wanted to take over
Hogwarts... but "all those raids"...

Of all the explanations I only rule out the ones concerning Harry. I'm not
concern with Dobby's urge to warn Harry in particular - I have a theory
about that, I'll post it some other time.



Susana