Snape and Harry again.

cubfanbudwoman susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net
Sat Sep 25 02:50:56 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 113804

Carol:
> With all that practice behind him, it's no surprise that he's able 
> to drive away the Dementors when they show up on Privet Drive. 

SSSusan:
I don't agree with this.  I think it's still amazing that he can do 
it, and I think the reaction of the folks at his trial shows that 
they're surprised, too.  If you re-read that scene, it was VERY 
difficult for Harry to manage to conjure the patronus, and I think 
it truly IS advanced magic for someone so young.


Carol: 
> Anyway, my point is that Harry's experience (and Dumbledore's and 
> even Snape's training) is helping to make him ready to face 
> Voldemort. Even Crouch!Moody, who meant to deliver him up to 
> his "master," helped to prepare him. and we haven't yet seen all 
> the powers that were given to him when the Avada Kedavra backfired 
> and somehow, Protegolike, spilled those powers into Harry.
> 
> I think the best evidence that this viewpoint is valid is the
> quotation from OoP that Susana provided in Message 113557: 
> 
> Dumbledore is speaking to Harry about Voldemort:
> "He saw himself in you before he had ever seen you, and *in marking
> you with that scar, he did not kill you, as he intended, but gave 
> you powers, and a future, which have fitted you to escape him not 
> once, but four times so far*--something that neither your parents, 
> nor Neville's parents, ever achieved." (OoP Am. ed. 842)
> 
> So, if Dumbledore is right, Harry wasn't born with the power to 
> defeat Voldemort. Voldemort, ironically, gave him that power 
> himself.
 

SSSusan:
Yes, DD & Snape & Lupin, et al., are training Harry up, but why does 
that have to mean that he doesn't have special power?  HAVING the 
power doesn't mean an automatic understanding of how to use it.  

To counter the quote you've provided, I offer up these, also from DD 
in OotP:

"...you will remember the events of your first year at Hogwarts 
quite as clearly as I do.  You rose magnificently to the challenge 
that faced you, and sooner--much sooner--than I had anticipated, you 
found yourself face-to-face with Voldemort.  ...You fought a man's 
fight." [US hardback, 837]

"And so we entered your second year at Hogwarts. And once again you 
met challenges even grown wizards have never faced.  Once again you 
acquitted yourself beyond my wildest dreams."  [838]

And, most importantly, to me, about his 3rd year:  
"Young you might be, but you had proved you were *exceptional.*" 
[839, emphasis added]


To me this indicates there is, indeed, Something About Harry.  
Training is helping, too, but DD is seeing things in Harry he's 
never seen in others.  And all while "struggling under more burdens 
than any student who has ever passed through this school" [839].  
Nope, I still interpret this as DD's believing Harry is truly 
different from other wizards, truly gifted in some extraordinary way.

Siriusly Snapey Susan







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