(LV's Wand )

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No: HPFGUIDX 113986

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, macfotuk at y... wrote:
> 
> In SS/PS Ollivander knows that Harry's wand is the 'brother' of LV's 
> but IIRC he doesn't state that *he* sold the wand to its present 
> owner (remember, at this point Tom Riddle is yet to come, in CoS). 
> We perhaps assume (ass of 'u' and 'me') this, because we haven't 
> heard much about other ways for English wizards to get their wands. 
> There have, however, been questions about why LV (as TMR) was given 
> a wand with Fawkes' feather in the first place. Your post here 
> suggests that perhaps DD knew TMR was gong to be VERY powerful, but 
> that there was a chance he might go off the rails, so the feather is 
> an 'insurance policy' (?). In which case: clever (as usual) DD. 
> Alternatively, DD (or almost anyone else of 50ish years ago) acted 
> on a prophecy and deliberately gave TMR (LV to come) a powerful, but 
> compromised (or counterable) weapon in a Fawkes' feather wand.

Sorry, but he does:
Mr Ollivander touched the lightening scar on Harry's forehead with a long
white finger.
"I'm sorry to say I sold the wand that did it," he said softly. "Thirteen and
a half inches. Yew. Powerful wand, very powerful, and in the wrong hands...
Well, if I'd known what that wand was going out into the world to do...."

What is intriguing is that he identifies the wand as Voldy's.
This is odd, because in CoS DD informs us that very  few people know
that Tom became Voldy. So who told Ollivander?

I'm with Carolyn on this; DD kept a very close eye on the wands made
with Fawkes's feathers, much more than just casual interest. One thing
I want to know is *when* the feathers were given. Were they random
events or was the second wand deliberately constructed as a corrective 
to the first and intended specifically for Harry or Neville - the putative
Voldy destroyers? Note that Neville never bought a wand on entering 
Hogwarts; he was using his father's. Be interesting to see how he'd
perform with Harry's wand.

If DD intended the wands to go to specific individuals (based on their 
magical abilities, their place in his 'plan', etc) then Ollivanders words
have an added impact - "..and in the wrong hands.." Was the wand
not intended for Tom/Voldy in the first place?  Or was it just ill chance
that Tom turned bad and the hands 'became' wrong? Since there is never
any indication that Tom was ever anything except bitter and twisted
(inside at least), it does give cause for thought.

"Well, if I'd known what that wand was going out into the world to do...."
he'd have done what? Broken it? Conned Tom into accepting a different
wand? Sawn two inches off the end so all AKs stopped short of the target?
Ollivander might have more influence over which wand a wizard gets than
is apparent at first sight. He decides which wands you try. And since
there are instances were wizards have bought second wands when the
first still works, it's not a case of only one wand works best per wizard.

Of course, we're making an assumption - that Voldy's wand is the same
one  that he bought as Tom. Probably yes, but is there  firm evidence?
It's easy to jump to conclusions about wands, but they do seem to get 
swapped around more than one would expect for such 'personal' items-
Neville's, Ron had Charlie's old one and those posters who consider that
Lily was well equipped for charms should remember that it was her *first*
wand that was "a nice wand for charm work" - the implication from 
Ollivander being that there was at least one other with unknown (to us) 
properties and no indication of why she changed.

Hmm. We need to  get Ollivander in the back room with a bright light
and a bottle of veritaserum. We could get some key gen from him IMO.

Kneasy