JKR's tips on Book6
dungrollin
spotthedungbeetle at hotmail.com
Tue Sep 28 10:24:26 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 114047
nineve_laguna wrote:
> Does anybody have any ideas about JKR tips about clues for book 6?
> Clue 1: She mentions we should ask about why Voldemort didn't die
> when the AK rebounded and which precautions did he take to prevent
> his death.
> Clue 2: is why Dumbledore didn't kill Voldy at the MoM, she said
that
> what Dumbledore said (there are worst things than death) wasn't the
> true reason.
> Just thought it would be interesting to hear theories about these
> clues.
KJ Responded:
1. The wording of the prophecy says that either will die *at* the
hand
of the other not *by* the hand of the other. At hand normally means
*near* not *as a result of.
Dungrollin:
But it doesn't say "either will die *at hand* of the
other" it
says "Either must die *at the hand* of the other." Which
*does*
mean "as a result of".
KJ:
<snip>
4. Suppose the wording of the prophecy was changed to read "neither
can
live *if* the other survives". Not much difference but it changes the
whole meaning.
Dungrollin again:
I'm not quite sure what you mean here, my reading of the prophecy
is
that the important word is `survives'. Harry should have
died (if
we assume that it was an AK that bounced) but he survived. When the
curse rebounded, LV should have died, but he also survived. The
question is then: how can we say that `neither can live' as
both of
them currently appear to be very much alive? There must be some
other interpretation of the word `live' in the context of the
prophecy, other than that with which we are all familiar.
KJ:
<snip>
7. Suppose Snape treats Harry badly because he knows what Dumbledore
has planned, believes that it must happen, and can't afford to
actually see Harry as a person? Everybody believes that Snape's
hatred of James is a pretty weak reason for hating Harry.
Dungrollin again:
I'm not sure about this
It's been gone over so many
times that I'm
hesitant to say what I think, lest this thread goes the way of so
many others (never fails to astonish me how many innocent threads
end up rehashing Snape arguments).
But
No, sorry, I can't help myself (unrepentant Snape fan here) :-).
I don't think that Snape's hatred of James is a weak reason
for
hating Harry. Or rather, I would if it were anyone other than
Snape. If it was someone with a character like Lupin's, then yes,
I
would think there had to be something else behind it, but Snape,
frankly (much as I adore him) is an emotional cripple. For those of
us with a degree of emotional maturity his reasons for hating Harry
seem weak, but this is Snape! He does not have any emotional
maturity or self-control.
However, I think you may have a point about his refusal to see Harry
as an ordinary boy. I suspect that Snape is one of the few that
Dumbledore takes fully into his confidence. But it doesn't
matter
even if Snape only knows the bit of the prophecy that Voldemort
knows, he has still known, (presumably) since before Harry was born,
that Harry is `the *one* with the power to vanquish the dark
lord'.
It seems fairly obvious that Harry's life is going to be in
danger
at some point. If Snape was the sort of chap who *could* form
normal relationships I'd say you have a point. But he's not.
He's
either an obsequious creep, or a tyrranical sadist. The only person
with whom he appears to have a normal kind of relationship is with
Dumbledore, but then Dumbledore knows all his secrets, so he has
nothing to hide from him.
Knowing also that Harry is James' son, I think Snape's been
dreading
his arrival at Hogwarts. Then Harry arrives, showing none of the
splendiferous talent of his father and mother (except on the
quidditch pitch) and looking just like James. I think Snape is
somewhat disappointed in Harry ... But this is where I start
repeating what other and better posters have said.
KJ:
8. It was only mentioned once that Dumbledore killed the other dark
wizard (his name escapes me).
so we know that he is not the benevolent wizard he appears to be.
Dungrollin again:
It's on the famous wizard card, and it says "His *defeat* of
the
dark wizard Grindlewald." Nothing about death or killing.
KJ:
9. Suppose Dumbledore left Harry at the Dursleys because he did not
want Harry raised in a loving household, suppose he wanted him
raised in a way that would aid in creating the environment necessary
for Voldemort to make use of him.
Dungrollin again:
Again, I'm not entirely sure I've understood what you mean.
Are you
suggesting DD wanted Harry to live with the Dursleys to make things
*easier* for You Know Who?
KJ:
It's all very interesting.
Dungrollin:
Amen to that!!!
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