JKR's tips on Book6

dungrollin spotthedungbeetle at hotmail.com
Tue Sep 28 10:24:26 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 114047

nineve_laguna wrote:
> Does anybody have any ideas about JKR tips about clues for book 6?
> Clue 1: She mentions we should ask about why Voldemort didn't die
> when the AK rebounded and which precautions did he take to prevent
> his death.
> Clue 2: is why Dumbledore didn't kill Voldy at the MoM, she said 
that
> what Dumbledore said (there are worst things than death) wasn't the
> true reason.
> Just thought it would be interesting to hear theories about these
> clues.


KJ Responded:

1. The wording of the prophecy says that either will die *at* the 
hand
of the other not *by* the hand of the other. At hand normally means
*near* not *as a result of.

Dungrollin:
But it doesn't say "either will die *at hand* of the
other" it 
says "Either must die *at the hand* of the other."  Which
*does* 
mean "as a result of".

KJ:
<snip>
4. Suppose the wording of the prophecy was changed to read "neither 
can
live *if* the other survives". Not much difference but it changes the
whole meaning.

Dungrollin again:
I'm not quite sure what you mean here, my reading of the prophecy
is 
that the important word is `survives'.  Harry should have
died (if 
we assume that it was an AK that bounced) but he survived.  When the 
curse rebounded, LV should have died, but he also survived.  The 
question is then: how can we say that `neither can live' as
both of 
them currently appear to be very much alive?  There must be some 
other interpretation of the word `live' in the context of the 
prophecy, other than that with which we are all familiar.

KJ:
<snip>
7. Suppose Snape treats Harry badly because he knows what Dumbledore 
has planned, believes that it must happen, and can't afford to 
actually see Harry as a person? Everybody believes that Snape's 
hatred of James is a pretty weak reason for hating Harry.

Dungrollin again:
I'm not sure about this
 It's been gone over so many
times that I'm 
hesitant to say what I think, lest this thread goes the way of so 
many others (never fails to astonish me how many innocent threads 
end up rehashing Snape arguments).
But

No, sorry, I can't help myself (unrepentant Snape fan here) :-).
I don't think that Snape's hatred of James is a weak reason
for 
hating Harry.  Or rather, I would if it were anyone other than 
Snape. If it was someone with a character like Lupin's, then yes,
I 
would think there had to be something else behind it, but Snape, 
frankly (much as I adore him) is an emotional cripple.  For those of 
us with a degree of emotional maturity his reasons for hating Harry 
seem weak, but this is Snape! He does not have any emotional 
maturity or self-control.

However, I think you may have a point about his refusal to see Harry 
as an ordinary boy.  I suspect that Snape is one of the few that 
Dumbledore takes fully into his confidence.  But it doesn't
matter – 
even if Snape only knows the bit of the prophecy that Voldemort 
knows, he has still known, (presumably) since before Harry was born, 
that Harry is `the *one* with the power to vanquish the dark
lord'. 
It seems fairly obvious that Harry's life is going to be in
danger 
at some point.  If Snape was the sort of chap who *could* form 
normal relationships I'd say you have a point.  But he's not.
He's 
either an obsequious creep, or a tyrranical sadist.  The only person 
with whom he appears to have a normal kind of relationship is with 
Dumbledore, but then Dumbledore knows all his secrets, so he has 
nothing to hide from him.  

Knowing also that Harry is James' son, I think Snape's been
dreading 
his arrival at Hogwarts.  Then Harry arrives, showing none of the 
splendiferous talent of his father and mother (except on the 
quidditch pitch) and looking just like James. I think Snape is 
somewhat disappointed in Harry ... But this is where I start 
repeating what other and better posters have said.

KJ:
8. It was only mentioned once that Dumbledore killed the other dark
wizard (his name escapes me).
so we know that he is not the benevolent wizard he appears to be.

Dungrollin again:
It's on the famous wizard card, and it says "His *defeat* of
the 
dark wizard Grindlewald." Nothing about death or killing.

KJ:
9. Suppose Dumbledore left Harry at the Dursleys because he did not 
want Harry raised in a loving household, suppose he wanted him 
raised in a way that would aid in creating the environment necessary 
for Voldemort to make use of him.

Dungrollin again:
Again, I'm not entirely sure I've understood what you mean. 
Are you 
suggesting DD wanted Harry to live with the Dursleys to make things 
*easier* for You Know Who?

KJ:
It's all very interesting.

Dungrollin:
Amen to that!!!






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