Survival of AK

[kim reynolds]

No: HPFGUIDX 114079

Kim here, adding to the following thread:

> Steve wrote:
> Not necessarily. Right before the duel between LV and HP in the graveyard, 
> LV cast both the imperius curse and the cruciatus curse on HP. But during 
> the priori incantatem the first spell out was the AK that killed Cedric, 
> not the imperius curse that should have been first. The only things that 
> come out are 'people' killed by the AK. Where are those other 2 spells? 

> Kneasy wrote:
> Sorry, you're mistaken. The first replay was screams of pain (Cruciatus - 
> Harry's, Avery's) then Peter's hand, then Cedric. The wand replays *every* 
> spell that has an observable physical effect. The Imperio! wouldn't show 
> because it has no *physical*  effect.
>
> At GH the last spell used (according to the wand and JKR's corrections) 
> was the AK that killed Lily. And if you accept Harry's 'visions' Voldy was 
> still laughing after that one. But then something marked Harry, dis-embodied 
> Voldy and wrecked the house -  all physical effects. So where's the spell? 
> Of course if it wasn't a wand spell but something else (something I've been 
> banging on about for a long time) then that would explain it, wouldn't it?


Kim now:

But it was a wand spell that marked Harry, etc.  I found this paragraph (Ch. 2, p. 20 of GoF, US Scholastic edition) which retells what happened at GH the night Harry got his scar.  It's the narrator speaking, not a character, so one would suppose it's meant to be the correct history of what happened:

"Harry had been a year old the night that Voldemort--the most powerful Dark Wizard for a century, a wizard who had been gaining power steadily for eleven years--arrived at his house and killed his father and mother.  Voldemort had then turned his wand on Harry; he had performed the curse that had disposed of many full-grown witches and wizards in his steady rise to power--and, incredibly, it had not worked. Instead of killing the small boy, the curse had rebounded upon Voldemort.  Harry had survived with nothing but a lightning-shaped cut on his forehead, and Voldemort had been reduced to something barely alive.  His powers gone, his life almost extinguished, Voldemort had fled..."

Looks like Voldemort used a separate AK on Harry after killing James and Lily with AK's, and that that was the last spell (at least the last that's ever been mentioned) used at GH.  That single AK gave Harry a scar instead of killing him and also nearly killed Voldemort when it rebounded.  In re. another theory somewhere in this thread, if the same AK that killed Lily had then gone through her and somehow scarred Harry too, Harry probably would have witnessed her death, but according to JKR, Harry didn't see either of his parents die.  He was in his little cot at the time (and maybe in his own bedroom where Lily might have been heading to protect him from Voldemort but she got zapped by an AK and died instead).  That's why Harry couldn't see the thestrals til after he'd witnessed Cedric's death.

Here's a thought -- maybe the AK spell that hit Harry and then rebounded onto LV at GH didn't come out of the wand during the GoF Priori Incantatem scene because the two people involved (HP and LV) were standing right there alive dueling with each other.  JKR could have included images of baby Harry being scarred and Voldemort losing his body, but she chose not to for some reason.  Of course the counter to that idea is that PP was standing right there too and the image of his severed hand came out of the wand.   

IMO, JKR writes wonderful stories and she's justifiably got a lot of folks hooked.  But she isn't always perfect in every detail she writes.  Few authors are.  So sometimes things don't seem to add up, the above possibly being a case in point. 

Kim

P.S. Another question for another thread?  Has anyone found any descriptions of Lord Voldemort's physical appearance/attributes during his reign of terror 15-25 years previously?  Was he supposed to have looked the same then as he does after his rebirth in the GoF graveyard scene?  I think I read somewhere DD saying that Tom Riddle (young, dark-haired, and handsome) was no longer recognizeable when he returned as LV.  Anyway, the reborn LV is no 60+ year old version of the young Tom Riddle.  Does his current snakelike appearance have anything to do with the experiments he said kept him from dying from the rebounded AK at GH?   --Kim
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