Malfoy Sr's Intent with TMR's Diary (CoS)

cubfanbudwoman susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net
Wed Sep 29 03:29:03 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 114104

SSSusan:
>> The fact that Lucius HADN'T talked to Voldy 'til the graveyard 
is a big part of my argument.  It would have been Lucius's first 
opportunity to protest about how much he'd done on Voldy's 
behalf...but he doesn't.  And I'm also not sure that the failure 
was "spectacular."  The plan actually came amazingly close to 
success:  DD was out of the way; McGonagall was ready to close the 
school; people were blaming Harry; Ginny was almost dead and Diary!
Tom was almost "real."  I'd call it a near-miss, not a spectacular 
failure.  (Of course, *any* failure by a DE is likely 
considered "spectacular" to Voldy--look at him blaming Bella for the 
broken prophecy orb.)
 
It's not that Voldy doesn't KNOW; it's that Lucius doesn't 
use that first chance to MAKE SURE he knows.  "But, Master!  Let me 
tell you how hard I worked 2 years ago to bring you back!"  Nope.  
He doesn't breath a word.  It *could* be because he knows the 
attempt was a failure.  *I* think it's simply more likely that it's 
because his goal wasn't to bring Voldy back.<<
 
Carol again:
> But how *could* Lucius tell Voldemort about the diary plot? Before 
> it happens, Voldy is in the back of Quirrell's head and Lucius 
> probably doesn't know about it until after the fact.  Then we have 
> CoS, in which the diary plot is coming to fruition--and ends with 
> the destruction of Diary!Tom.
> 
> Why didn't Lucius tell Voldy about it then (aside from the plan 
> having failed)? Presumably because Voldy was Vapormort again and 
> remained in that form until the end of GoF. Even though by March 
> or so of the year of the Tri-Wizard Tournament, Lucius may have 
> guessed that Voldemort was coming back because his Dark Mark was 
> growing more vivid just as Snape's and Karkaroff's did, and he may 
> even have heard rumors that Voldemort was in Albania, but how was 
> he going to find him?
>
> Lucius, on the other hand, simply had no opportunity before the
> graveyard scene, when Voldemort finally took shape, to contact him.


SSSusan:
I'm afraid you're misunderstanding my point entirely, Carol.  I do 
NOT believe that Lucius had any opportunity to tell Voldy about the 
diary plot at ANY point before the graveyard scene.  It is precisely 
that fact which, to me, makes it extremely significant that he does 
not use that first moment of opportunity in the graveyard to protest 
about what he's done!  

*IF* he had really set up the diary plot as a means of helping Voldy 
return, then **at this first opportunity** [read:  graveyard] to 
brag about how hard he worked, about the risk he took, about how 
close he came to success, then why NOT do it?  I'm simply taking 
Lucius' reticence at that moment as evidence that he DIDN'T set up 
the diary plan as a means of bringing Voldy back at all, but rather 
set it up to advance his own position in the WW.

Siriusly Snapey Susan






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