Malfoy Sr's Intent with TMR's Diary (CoS)
cubfanbudwoman
susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net
Wed Sep 29 03:29:03 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 114104
SSSusan:
>> The fact that Lucius HADN'T talked to Voldy 'til the graveyard
is a big part of my argument. It would have been Lucius's first
opportunity to protest about how much he'd done on Voldy's
behalf...but he doesn't. And I'm also not sure that the failure
was "spectacular." The plan actually came amazingly close to
success: DD was out of the way; McGonagall was ready to close the
school; people were blaming Harry; Ginny was almost dead and Diary!
Tom was almost "real." I'd call it a near-miss, not a spectacular
failure. (Of course, *any* failure by a DE is likely
considered "spectacular" to Voldy--look at him blaming Bella for the
broken prophecy orb.)
It's not that Voldy doesn't KNOW; it's that Lucius doesn't
use that first chance to MAKE SURE he knows. "But, Master! Let me
tell you how hard I worked 2 years ago to bring you back!" Nope.
He doesn't breath a word. It *could* be because he knows the
attempt was a failure. *I* think it's simply more likely that it's
because his goal wasn't to bring Voldy back.<<
Carol again:
> But how *could* Lucius tell Voldemort about the diary plot? Before
> it happens, Voldy is in the back of Quirrell's head and Lucius
> probably doesn't know about it until after the fact. Then we have
> CoS, in which the diary plot is coming to fruition--and ends with
> the destruction of Diary!Tom.
>
> Why didn't Lucius tell Voldy about it then (aside from the plan
> having failed)? Presumably because Voldy was Vapormort again and
> remained in that form until the end of GoF. Even though by March
> or so of the year of the Tri-Wizard Tournament, Lucius may have
> guessed that Voldemort was coming back because his Dark Mark was
> growing more vivid just as Snape's and Karkaroff's did, and he may
> even have heard rumors that Voldemort was in Albania, but how was
> he going to find him?
>
> Lucius, on the other hand, simply had no opportunity before the
> graveyard scene, when Voldemort finally took shape, to contact him.
SSSusan:
I'm afraid you're misunderstanding my point entirely, Carol. I do
NOT believe that Lucius had any opportunity to tell Voldy about the
diary plot at ANY point before the graveyard scene. It is precisely
that fact which, to me, makes it extremely significant that he does
not use that first moment of opportunity in the graveyard to protest
about what he's done!
*IF* he had really set up the diary plot as a means of helping Voldy
return, then **at this first opportunity** [read: graveyard] to
brag about how hard he worked, about the risk he took, about how
close he came to success, then why NOT do it? I'm simply taking
Lucius' reticence at that moment as evidence that he DIDN'T set up
the diary plan as a means of bringing Voldy back at all, but rather
set it up to advance his own position in the WW.
Siriusly Snapey Susan
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