House Elves' enslavement (long)
cubfanbudwoman
susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net
Wed Sep 29 18:56:52 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 114165
Demetra:
> > It seems to me that the HE's were introduced as a rather benign
> > group. Dobby is the first HE we meet, and he comes across as
> > more ditzy than dangerous.
<snip>
MJ:
> I think we also have to remember that whatever magic HE's possess,
> the mere threat of Dobby using it was enough to make Lucius turn
> tail and run (figuratively speaking). At the end of CS, Dobby
> casts a spell strong enough to knock LM down the stairs. He tells
> LM "You shall go now....You shall not touch Harry Potter," and
> then....
>
> "Lucius Malfoy had no choice.." Why? Why did he "have no choice"?
> Dobby's just a house elf, right? Why couldn't LM just tell Dobby
> to go bang his head on the wall and stay out of it? Did the fact
> that Dobby was at that point free have anything to do with it?
> Does being tied to a home/family make the HE's magic weaker - or
> more controllable?
>
> There has to be something we're not being told about HEs and what
> they can and cannot do and the strength of their magic skills. I'm
> in the group that believes there will be a battle at Hogwarts and
> HEs will have a role to play in defending it.
SSSusan:
These are great comments, following upon another excellent post by
Demetra. You may be onto something key when you ask whether having
the HEs enslaved somehow *weakens* their inherent magical ability.
If they spend their lives "doing for" their masters and punishing
themselves for any rebellious thought or action, then there may well
be a built-in mechanism for controlling their powerful magical
capabilities.
It *is* noteworthy that Dobby could do what seems to be pretty
advanced magic: apparating; sealing the barrier; charming the
bludger; *wandlessly* causing the pudding to fall; and, as you noted,
sending Lucius sprawling & causing him to back off. I think we're
SUPPOSED to think it's just a *different* kind of magic from wizards -
- JKR said "He's a house-elf, they've got powers wizards haven't got
(but wizards have also got powers that house-elves haven't) -- and
perhaps she wanted us to take that as "There are lots of things they
can't do." But perhaps that's not so true; perhaps it's actually a
very powerful form of magic that's been, in large part, kept in check
by the lives most HEs lead.
Siriusly Snapey Susan
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