Survival of AK
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macfotuk at yahoo.com
Thu Sep 30 01:44:17 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 114206
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Hannah" <hannahmarder at y...>
wrote:
> > Kim wrote:
> > But it was a wand spell that marked Harry, etc. I found this
> paragraph (Ch. 2, p. 20 of GoF, US Scholastic edition) which
retells
> what happened at GH the night Harry got his scar. It's the
narrator
> speaking, not a character, so one would suppose it's meant to be
the
> correct history of what happened:
> <snip of quote and other good stuff>
>
> Hannah now: This reminds me of a post I wrote about a week ago, on
> how trustworthy the narrative can be. It's natural to believe
what
> the narrative says, at least more than information from
characters,
> but I've actually come to the conclusion that the narrative isn't
> more reliable than any other source.
>
> Take this from PS/SS, p27 UK paperback; 'He'd lived with the
> Dursley's for ten years, ten miserable years, as long as he could
> remember, ever since his parents had died in that car crash.'
>
> This quote is from the narrative, and it states that Harry's
parents
> died in a car crash. Obviously it's not true, but at that point,
> that's what Harry believes. The narrative only ever gives us
facts
> from Harry's point of view, with the exception of the first
chapter
> of PS/SS, and the quidditch match in PS/SS when Quirrel jinxes the
> broom. The narrative is not omniscient. It can relate events as
> Harry sees them, and while it describes Harry's emotions and
> thoughts, it can't tell us what's going on in other characters'
> heads (more's the pity).
>
> So when the narrative says what happened at Godric's Hollow, it
> tells the accepted version of events, as Harry believed it
> happened. That may not be what actually occurred (almost
certainly
> isn't, IMO). If the narrative only told the truth, the whole
truth
> and nothing but the truth, it would be a very dull book with no
> surprises.
>
> JKR has said that the first scene of HBP is going to be something
> she's thought of putting into other books, or words to that
effect.
> That makes me think that it might be a retrospective chapter, a
bit
> like the first in PS/SS, maybe the actual events at GH, or some
> other important past incident.
>
> Hannah
Mac: Very nice post Hannah, I entirely agree - the narrative is
about what Harry 'knows'.
On your last point, I suspect the backplot of GH will have to wait
until book 7 (damn!) because there are too many secrets in there
about character's motives, allegiances and who was/wasn't there and
why and what they did*, but she has promised more on Riddle's
backplot (birth, childhood, how'd he get to be so evil? etc)and that
would have made sense to put in CoS but then as the book developed
would have looked like foreshadowing the entire CoS story and had to
go (though can't see where Riddle backplot might also fit as starter
for OotP, as claimed).
*there's a very interesting discarded character mentioned at JKR's
website
" ...
Opening Chapters of Philosopher's Stone
There were many different versions of the first chapter
of 'Philosopher's Stone' and the one I finally settled on is not the
most popular thing I've ever written; lots of people have told me
that they found it hard work compared with the rest of the book. The
trouble with that chapter was (as so often in a Harry Potter book) I
had to give a lot of information yet conceal even more. There were
various versions of scenes in which you actually saw Voldemort
entering Godric's Hollow and killing the Potters and in early drafts
of these, a Muggle betrayed their whereabouts. As the story evolved,
however, and Pettigrew became the traitor, this horrible Muggle
vanished.
Other drafts included a character by the name of 'Pyrites', whose
name means 'fool's gold'. He was a servant of Voldemort's and was
MEETING SIRIUS in front of the Potters' house. Pyrites, too, had to
be discarded, though I quite liked him as a character; he was a
dandy and wore white silk gloves, which I thought I might stain
artistically with blood from time to time.
..."
Meeting Sirius? hmmmm when? before or after the destruction? hmmmmm
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