[HPforGrownups] Re: Occlumency and aiki-waza (LONG!)

Magda Grantwich mgrantwich at yahoo.com
Fri Apr 1 18:23:23 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 126944

--- pippin_999 <foxmoth at qnet.com> wrote:

> My contention, which I've made before, is that Snape (and
> Dumbledore)knew Harry had successfully resisted Imperius and so 
> they thought that Harry already knew how to organize his mind to 
> resist occlumency. Hence Snape's angry statement that 
> Harry is not trying, which Harry inadvertently confirmed by barring
> Snape's access to his memory of Cho. A fluke, as you say, but Snape

> wasn't to know that. 


I would agree, with two important riders to the above statement:

1.  Dumbledore and Snape assumed that Harry would understand the
underlying reason for the lessons - that it was important to keep
Voldemort out of his mind.  Harry's question during the first lesson
that V might make him do things through this mental connection must
have reassured them that the kid understood the stakes involved.

What they didn't appreciate was that Harry was so bewildered and hurt
by being left out of things all year that he would jump on the one
instance where he'd been indispensible (saving Arthur) and be
naturally reluctant to end the possibility of similar rescues.  And
that he would be hurt enough by Dumbledore's avoidance of him to
resist when he was told to do something without a larger, in-context
explanation.

Harry was told over and over again why occlumency was important -
what he wasn't told was why occlumency was important in the larger
context of the Order's fight - and, by extension, what Harry's place
was in that fight.

2.  Dumbledore and Snape didn't realize that in addition to
channeling Voldemort's emotions and longings, Harry was also
accessing Voldemort's moods and feelings.  Harry didn't realize that
the longing to get through the door was Voldemort's longing, not his
own, and he never told anyone (except for an aborted effort to tell
Sirius after they portkeyed to 12GP) about these strange feelings. 
So he was being propelled by foreign emotions that no one knew about.

> More evidence that Lupin is being placed on a pedestal so that he 
> can topple off it with a loud and satisfying crash, IMO.


So what's the status of the great ESE!Lupin thesis, anyway?

Magda


		
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