Occlumency and aiki-waza (LONG!)

pippin_999 foxmoth at qnet.com
Sat Apr 2 16:05:32 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 126973


NoraL
> The best analogy for books on aikido (I recommend Westbrook & Ratti 
> and Saotome for descriptions of technique) are medieval chant 
> manuscripts in neumatic notation.  They make absolutely perfect sense 
> if you already know what you're doing.  You can't learn how to sing 
> chant from them unless you already know a large number of chants, 
> though.  Since I know how irimi-nage generally works (as well as 
> anyone does with The Twenty Year Technique), aikido books are useful; 
> but you can't learn how to do proper irimi-nage from the book.

Pippin:
But you are choosing a very narrow example -- Hebrew trope for Torah reading is 
completely obscure if you've never heard Torah chanted, but  there are books that 
tell how to translate Hebrew trope symbols into conventional musical  notation. 

 At the very least,Harry could have  learned  that he was not being taught according 
to the accepted method, which would have been incredibly useful for him to know, or 
conversely, that he *was* being taught according to the accepted method and 
Snape wasn't deliberately making things difficult. 

Of course Snape was making things difficult, but the root cause of that is the one 
Dumbledore pointed towards, IMO  -- Snape's grudge against James makes it 
gratifying for Snape when Harry fails, because it gives Snape an excuse for 
righteous anger. That makes Harry's passive aggressive behavior particularly 
counterproductive. I hope the conclusion of OOP means it is really coming to an 
end, and is not  merely a foreshadowing. 


Nora:
> What came to me last night after posting is why your version of the 
> karate analogy is unlikely to work, as well.  Someone may well learn 
> a number of kata working by himself from a video.  I don't want to 
> see what happens in his first sparring match against an experienced 
> partner, though.  Occlumency is a two-person affair, unlike figure 
> skating or casting a Patronus.


Pippin:
Hmmm....I wonder, would a  boggart-Snape be capable of legilimency? 

Pippin








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