Snape vs. Sirius (was: Snape's Stubbornness)

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Bonnie: 
> <snip>
In chapter 21 of POA:
" 'You surely don't believe a word of Black's story?' Snape 
whispered, his eyes fixed on Dumbledore's face. 
.......'Sirius Black showed he was capable of murder at the age of 
sixteen,' he breathed.  'You haven't forgotten that, Headmaster?  
You haven't forgotten that he once tried to kill me?' "
How can someone hold a grudge for sooooo long?  There's got to be 
more to it than that.  It doesn't make sense.<
<snip>

Betsy:
Because Sirius tried to *kill* Snape?  You may as well ask why 
Harry's still upset about Voldemort trying to kill him.  Do you 
think Harry's holding an unreasonable grudge?

Alla:

As Nora said once - round 45654757438393 in this argument. Let's do 
it. :)


I find your analogy to be flawed, Betsy. We KNOW that Voldemort 
tries to kill Harry. We SAW it quite a few times in the text. There 
is no ambiguity whatsoever that Voldemort wants Harry dead. We even 
know now WHY Voldemort wants Harry dead.

The certainty of the asumption that Sirius tried to kill Snape that 
night to me does not even come close to Voldemort and Harry
Bonny, I agree with you. I cannot make much sense of Snape's grudge 
yet at all, because there are SO many holes in the events that 
night. I sure hope that JKR will fulfill her promise of the 
backstory of the Prank.

We KNOW that Sirius told Snape that if he goes to Shack, he will 
learn about Remus' whereabouts. Why? 
Why did Snape listen? Why did he go? Why did Sirius say that in the 
first place?


Why WAS Snape so curious about Remus whereabouts in the first place?

I am more and more inclined to share the speculation that Snape 
already figured out who Remus was,when he was rereading that 
question about werewolves in the Pensieve scene and if he DID figure 
it out, the question why he went there in the first place becomes 
even more pressing.

I mean  if Snape gives same question on the test in poA, surely 
there is something significant about it.


Betsy:
He was willing to not only lead a fellow student to his death, but 
turn someone he thought of as a friend into a weapon.  (If Snape had 
died, or even just became a werewolf himself, what would Lupin's 
punishment have been, I wonder?)

Alla:

Remus reaction in the Shack seems to be very unconcerned when he 
talks about the event. Why?

Betsy: 
It's also interesting to me that James redeemes himself and wins 
both Dumbledore's approval, and quite possibly Lily's love by 
pulling away from Sirius' influence.

Alla:

I'd like to know what are you basing this assumption on? Do you mean 
after school or while still in Hogwarts? If you are talking about 
Hogwarts times, then may I submit that we don't know who was more 
under whose influence. James and Sirius were like brothers. James' 
family gave Sirius a shelter when he run away from home. Isn't it 
possible that James influenced Sirius much more than Sirius him?

If you are talking about after Hogwarts time, then I see even less 
signs of James pulling away from Sirius. he named him Harry's 
Godfather, he was present at the Cristening. James asked Sirius to 
become a Secret Keeper. I don't see any signs of them parting the 
ways.

Just my opinion of course,

Alla