OT: Re Hans

[cat_kind]

No: HPFGUIDX 127065


catkind: I apologise to other members for replying off topic on this
subject again. I'm still trying to find the logical basis to the
discussion about Harry Potter and Rosicrucianism.

Hans: I absolutely don't want to get into an arguing mode, i.e. trying
to convince or persuade people. 

Hans: It is precisely by saying what things
symbolise BEFORE Jo makes it obvious, that I can prove that what I'm
saying is true. That?s not persuading people, that?s proving that I
really know what I?m talking about.

catkind: This seems to me to be an inconsistent position.
If we are supposed to accept the next books as proof that your
position is true (i.e. that HP is based on the Path of Liberation), is
it not fair to expect that if the next books do not fit your
predictions, you should consider it proved false?

Be honest, is there anything Rowling could say or write that would
make you change your mind? (Note I say could, not will; obviously you
are firmly convinced that she will remain consistent to your theories.) 

I don't understand why you're posting your theories in a discussion
forum if you don't want to discuss them.

Hans: This is why I predicted in April 2003 what was coming in future
books, and I was very happy to see many of my predictions verified
even as early as book 5.

catkind: Message number? 

Hans: You seem to like tables...

catkind: I like concision. Tables are good from that point of view:-)

Hans: I would ask you earnestly to accept that it's important not to
drag holy things down into the muck by exposing them to ridicule.

catkind: I wouldn't dream of ridiculing anybody's religious beliefs.
Do you feel I am doing so? As I understand it we are not discussing
the truth or otherwise of your religious beliefs but whether or not HP
is an allegory of them.  I don't see how we can discuss that without
my trying to ascertain what it is exactly that you believe, but if I
have said anything you consider to be derogatory or ridiculing of
those beliefs I assure you it was out of ignorance and not intent.

Hans in Message #125555:   I just want to expose people to the truth:
not the truth of the teachings themselves, but the truth of whether
Harry Potter is BASED on those teachings. Reject the teachings of
liberation by all means, call them heretical, satanic or occult or
whatever you like. That's not the point. The point is: does Harry
Potter contain them or not? Quite simple.

Hans: I recognise Harry Potter as presenting this process [ck:
liberation] in a veiled form, and so it's obviously extremely probable
that the chakras will be symbolised somehow. In fact it?s quite
unlikely they're NOT symbolised in Harry Potter, as their reversal is
essential to the basic transmutation
process.

catkind:  I previously understood that you were trying to
*demonstrate* that HP is symbolic of the Path of Liberation.  You seem
to be saying here that you are taking this as given. Certainly I'd
find the former discussion more interesting. 

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Thanks for the references, Hans. I'm not commenting further on
Weasleys at the moment because my local library seems to have
mystically mislaid its copy of Leadbeater. Maybe later...

catkind