Is your Patronus the same as your Animagus?

snow15145 kking0731 at gmail.com
Tue Apr 5 13:25:00 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 127126


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "naamagatus" <naama_gat at h...> 
wrote:
> 
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "greenfirespike" 
> <feenyjam at m...> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > I believe that a character's Patronus will take the same shape as 
> > her/his Animagus.  While we no conclusive evidence via canon, 
> > because we have only been privy to either a character's Patronus 
or 
> > Animagus, it appears they derive from the same internal thing. 
> > 
> <snip> 
> 
> I agree. When Harry teached the DA the Patronus charm we see that 
> they take forms that seem to represent the characters pretty well 
> (Cho was a swan, as I recall, and Hermione an otter). More 
> significantly, in the Edinburgh chat JKR said that DD's patronus is 
a 
> phoenix "which is very representative of him." So it does seem that 
a 
> patronus, like the animagus form, is an animal form that represents 
> the essential being of a person. 
> 
> This means that if Harry became an animagus (which JKR already told 
> us he isn't going to), he would take the form of a stag. This makes 
> sense because it has been emphasised that Harry is very like his 
> father - not just physically, but in more essential qualities.
> 
> 
> Naama

Snow in agreement:

In the World Book Day Chat Rowling made a direct connection 
between the Patronus and Animagus forms:

"class 14: If you were a animagus which animal would you be? 
and why?
JK Rowling replies -> I gave Hermione my idea animagus, because 
it's my favourite animal. You'll find the answer in the Room of
Requirement, Order of the Phoenix!"
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Rowling was asked in this instance about her likely animagus 
form but replied with Hermione's Patronus form. I thought that 
she may have misunderstood the question but in an earlier interview
she answers that her animagus would be an otter:

"About the Books: transcript of J.K. Rowling's live interview on 
Scholastic.com," Scholastic.com, 16 October 2000

Question: If you were Animagus, what kind of animal would you be?
J.K. Rowling responds: I'd like to be an otter — that's my favourite 
animal. It would be depressing if I turned out to be a slug or 
something.
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Also from the World Book Day Chat:

What form does Dumbledore's Patronus take?

Good question. Can anyone guess? You have had a clue. There was a 
little whisper there. It is a phoenix, which is very representative 
of Dumbledore for reasons that I am sure you can guess.
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As I recall Dumbledore's patronus in POA when the dementors attacked 
Harry during a Quidditch match, his patronus was indistinct. The 
animagus however is depictive of your personality and Dumbledore is 
very representative of a phoenix; he can lift heavy objects with ease 
i.e. "Dumbledore bent down, and with extraordinary strength for a man 
so old and thin, raised Harry from the ground and set him on his 
feet." GOF pg. 672; Dumbledore strikes fear into evil persons like 
Voldemort (the only one he ever feared) and gives strength to those 
like Harry who are faithful i.e. "A powerful emotion had risen in 
Harry's chest at the sight of Dumbledore, a fortified, hopeful 
feeling rather like that which phoenix song gave him." OOP pg. 139. 
One of the only things left that is representative of a phoenix that 
Dumbledore has yet to purely exhibit is that his tears have healing 
powers, we know he shed at least one tear but whom did it help heal? 
There is also the fact that a phoenix is reborn in their ashes but 
again that may be yet to come. 

Rowling answers that your personality dictates what animal your 
animagus is:

America Online chat transcript, AOL.com, 19 October 2000 
Does the animal one turns into as an Animagi reflect your 
personality? 
Very well deduced, Narri! I personally would like to think that I 
would transform into an otter, which is my favorite animal. Imagine 
how horrible it would be if I turned out to be a cockroach!  
                                                 
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So if Dumbledore's personality is representative of a phoenix and 
your personality shows what type of animagus you would become, 
wouldn't Dumbledore's animagus be a phoenix? Rowling answered that 
Dumbledore's patronus was a phoenix so I would have to believe that 
the patronus and animagus would be the same animal. 


Snow










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