[HPforGrownups] Re: Harry's Turban Dream

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No: HPFGUIDX 127161

In a message dated 4/4/2005 3:13:39 AM Central Daylight Time, 
finwitch at yahoo.com writes:

> 
> Steve:
> >
> >Don't you find it odd that the author would give us, the reader,
> >insight into such a strange dream, but not allow the character to
> >remember it.
> >
> >I guess on one hand, that's not that uncommon, all of us frequently
> >wake from dream, and the memory of those dreams quickly fade from out
> >mind. So, it may have been nothing more than that.
> >
> >But still... it seems odd.
> 
> Finwitch:
> 
> It does indeed. Harry also begins to forget many of his scar-brought
> dreams... And there's the caged dream at the beginning of CoS. Both
> show what's going on, but the Turban-dream was obscure. What of the
> Flying Motorcycle - a dream Harry DID remember? Was it a dream OR a
> memory of his Flight to the 4 Privet Drive - as well as predicting
> Hagrid's arrival later?
> 
> This dream-issue follows up with the Divination. Tea-leaves. (Harry's
> prediction was correct; it came true when Ron got his 'Scabbers back')
> - but particularly Trelawney's issued homework: Dream Diary.
> 
> We might also remember that most of Harry's visions - those of
> Voldemort, with his scar hurting - have been TRUE.
> 
> Amberlyn:


I am in the middle of reading book four right now (my book club is doing an 
18 month discussion on the book), and I noticed something about Harry's dreams 
as well, since we are speaking of dreams he doesn't remember...

In the very beginning of GoF, Harry has the dream of what happens to Frank 
Bryce.  Now, Bertha Jorkins name is mentioned in this scene.  Yet, when Harry 
hears that name later, from Percy, Arthur, Bagman, Dumbledore, etc., he doesn't 
recall the name at all.  I think it is when Harry DOESN'T remember dreams, or 
parts of them, that it is a clue to the ending.  As with the turban talking to 
him (presumably Voldemort in Quirrell's turban), Harry never remembers it, 
and therefore, it holds a major clue to the story.  Imagine if Harry recalled 
the name from the dream and said something to Dumbledore about it, "Um, yeah, 
Professor Dumbledore, I had this dream about Voldemort and Wormtail and they 
admitting to killing Bertha Jorkins...so you'd better tell Mr Bagman or Mr. 
Crouch, right away.  Oh, and that muggle you mentioned, Frank Bryce?  He's dead 
too.  That's what woke me up. This is bad news"  Just a thought......

Amberlyn,
who sinks to the bottom of the lurking depths to avoid howlers from the 
elves...and promptly gets attacked by grindylows...



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