Man the canons

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Sun Apr 10 20:18:25 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 127384



> > > Alla:
> 
> > Yes, that 'take off the pants' went a bit far, but
> > do you know what I 
> > think James did? *WASHED* them with a scourgify,
> > thus taking on account 
> > what Lily told Snape to do... (pretending to teach
> > Snape *how* to wash 
> > his pants, no doubt...) After that, I think they
> > left him be...
> > 
> > Finwitch
> 

Rebecca:

Forgive me, but I thought scourgify was used to "wash
Snape's mouth out" not to do with his pants.  "Pink
soap bubbles stramed from Snape's mouth at once; the
froth was covering his lips, making him gag, choking
him --"
<SNIP>
They even said the reason they harassed Snape was that
"he exists" and Lily said they hexed anyone who
annoyed them.
 
Then, after Lily left they hung him upside down in the
air and  James says "Who wants to see me take off
Snivelly's pants?"  Then the memory cuts off.  I don't
think there is any indication they left Snape alone
after that.


Alla:

OK, that quote was all by Finwitch, NOT me. I absolutely agree with 
you that they used scourgify to wash his mouth.

As to other things - I am very much in agreement with Jen. I don't 
think that "he exists" IS a complete reason of why that scene 
happened ( pretty disgusting scene, if I may add, but ONE scene). i 
think that we have NOT know the full story yet and even if I agree 
to call James and Sirius bullies in THIS scene, I don't think for 
one second that Snape was a victim throughout their school years. 
That is what I believe right now, unless canon proves me 
otherwise. :-)

Whether they leave him alone after memory cuts off - I think that 
both possibilities are absolutely open since we don't have any 
indication one way or another. 

Alla wrote earlier:

Hm, I am not so sure about Snape being alone against four Marauders
all the time, no matter how unpopular Snape seemed to be in that
scene.
 
There is that gang of Slytherins, which Sirius mentioned. I do think
that it is a likely possibility that they were involved quite
actively in interactions with Maraduers.
<SNIP>
 
Bookworm:
I agree with Alla that Snape was always alone when he faced the 
Marauders.  It is possible that the "gang" had already left
school.  It is also possible, if they were in different years, that 
some were in class that afternoon.  We only saw a short period of 
time when Snape happened to be on his own.  

Alla:

OK, you meant to agree with me that Snape was NOT always alone with 
his interactions with Marauders, right? ;-) At least that is what I  
meant to say. :-) Just want to be clear on this one.




Ravenclaw Bookworm: 
Sirius told Harry that Snape was "part of a gang of
Slytherins" (not the leader of it).  According to the Lexicon, 
Lucius Malfoy is about 5 years older than Snape.  Malfoy and Snape 
would have been at school together for only a year or two, but I 
suspect that Malfoy was the leader and Snape was his protégé. 
... But 2 people don't make a"gang", and hanging around with Malfoy 
for only his first couple of years at Hogwarts, IMO, wouldn't have 
prompted asstrong a comment from Sirius, so there must have been 
others in the various years.  

Alla:

Bella was there too among others. I would imagine ( and that IS just 
speculation) that Sirius loving his family as much as he did ;-)
would not have been friends with Bella and vice versa. I would also 
imagine that Sirius would not have had positive feelings towards any 
of Bella's friends.

History with Malfoy is also very interesting. Does the above 
mentioned "Malfoy lapdog" refers to past or present or BOTH?


Just my opinion of course,

Alla.









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