Man the canons

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No: HPFGUIDX 127394


Rebecca:

Apologies.


Alla:

Tbat's Ok, I just wanted to be clear on where I stand.

Rebecca: 
> I think Snape was primarily a victim to them.  A nasty
> person they decided they could do whatever they wanted
> to.  He tried to fight back, but was an obvious
> failure.
<SNIP>
> Right now we only have one scene to go on, and I'm
> going to go by it.  Obviously, we have Snape striking
> back.  We know he hates them.  When know he uses vile,
> racist language.  But we also know that what they do
> to him is victimize him.  I wonder what the difference
> in perception would be if Snape was female?  Because
> what they did was assualt, with possible sexual
> undertones.  I can guarantee you I'd have no qualms
> about putting them in jail for it.  This wasn't an act
> of rage in the heat of an argument.  It was cooly
> calculated victimization and assualt of someone they
> didn't like (a very unpleasant someone) for the sake
> of *entertainment*.


Alla:

We definitely have to agree to disagree on this one. I cannot and 
will not go on this one scene, which we are not even completely sure 
is objective.

For the record, I do think that it is more likely to be objective 
than not.  Regardless, I don't think it shows a complete picture. 

I will happily eat my words if I am wrong at the end. :-)

I also thinks that in Pensieve scene itself there are possible hints 
that not everything as it seems at the first sight.

Even here, even outnumbered, Snape manages to draw blood, so know I 
don't consider him a failure in fighting back.



I  think that was Vmonte who came up with very good hypothetical, 
which shows that Pensieve scene may not show complete story, even id 
it records events truthfully.

Let's  imagine Draco putting events at the end of GoF in the 
Pensieve AND us viewing those events from the moments Gryffs drew 
their wands.

Don't you think that Draco will come out as poor blameless victim?

 
Just my opinion of course,

Alla