Snape as one of the Good Guys... again/ some linguistics
dumbledore11214
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Sun Apr 17 17:02:21 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 127662
Alla earlier:
Yes, of course, they are not the same things, but again, IMO it
works on "analogy" level, not on the literal level of comparison.
Magda:
Since an analogy is a comparison, I'm not sure what this sentence
means.
Alla:
Let me see if I can clarify then.
>From Webster dictionary on line:
Comparison:
Main Entry: com·par·i·son
Pronunciation: k&m-'par-&-s&n
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French comparaison, from
Latin comparation-, comparatio, from comparare
1 : the act or process of comparing : as a : the representing of one
thing or person as similar to or like another b : an examination of
two or more items to establish similarities and dissimilarities
2 : identity of features : SIMILARITY <several points of comparison
between the two>
3 : the modification of an adjective or adverb to denote different
levels of quality, quantity, or relation .
>From Webster dictionary on-line:
> Main Entry: anal·o·gy
> Pronunciation: &-'na-l&-jE
> Function: noun
> Inflected Form(s): plural -gies
> 1 : inference that if two or more things agree with one another in
> some respects they will prob. agree in others
> 2 a : resemblance in some particulars between things otherwise
> unlike : SIMILARITY b : comparison based on such resemblance
> 3 : correspondence between the members of pairs or sets of
> linguistic forms that serves as a basis for the creation of
another
> form
> 4 : correspondence in function between anatomical parts of
different
> structure and origin -- compare HOMOLOGY
> synonym see LIKENESS
I think what I had in mind was 2a meaning for analogy - "resemblance
in some particulars between thing otherwise unlike"
Have I managed to confuse you even more? :-) Sorry, to make a long
story short, when I argue legal point sometimes - I can find the
case, which supports my position by 'analogy', even if FACTS of such
case are different, I am still trying to find similarities,which
can help me.
So, here I suppose what is similar to me is not necessarily the ACT,
but what goes with it - humiliation and hurt and having your teacher
as something your boggart transforms into.
Alla earlier:
Whether in the "METAPHORICAL" sense Snape actions could be
analogysed to rape, I am not sure, but I am not directly opposed to
that analogy.
Magda:
What other sense is there for an analogy? For an effective
comparison, the two acts should be - on some level - of equal weight
and importance. Otherwise you can keep extending the horizons until
you're equating the Holocaust with raiding the cookie jar.
Alla:
Well, yes I believe that on SOME level what Snape does to Harry and
Neville is just as horrible. Constant humiliation, not only in front
of the class but in front of the colleagues?
I actually think that JKR shows us what tremendous negative power
words and words alone can have over one's soul. Ginny was hurt by
the power of word after all.
JMO,
Alla
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