[HPforGrownups] Re: Prophecy wording

Kathryn Jones kjones at telus.net
Tue Apr 26 02:24:56 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 128075


Geoff:
> But at the point when Harry hears Trelawney making this prophecy, we
> do /not/ know that Sirius is on the side of good. This occurs in the
> chapter* prior to Harry's meeting with him in the Shrieking Shack**.
>
> *  (POA "Professor Trelawney's Prediction" p.238 UK edition)
> ** (POA "Cat, Rat and Dog" p.248 UK edition)


Kathy writes:
             I'm still not convinced that Sirius is a good guy.  It 
seems too obvious, the way that JKR plays with Snape's character.   
Sirius was the one to first lay          violent hands on Harry.  The 
Order believed that there had been a spy for a year before Voldemort got 
his and I don't think that Pettigrew was smart enough or
     had the guts to pull that off.  Nowhere in canon did it say that 
Pettigrew knew where the Potters were hiding, but Sirius went right to 
the house in time to
     lend his motorcycle to Hagrid (depending on how a person feels 
about the time sequence).  Sirius had been locked up for twelve years 
which was repeated
     a couple of times in his discussion in the Shrieking shack.  
Pettigrew was in hiding for twelve years and didn't seem to want to go 
to Voldemort but could
     not go anywhere else. His confinement for twelve years was 
mentioned twice as well.  There was obvious emphasis on the twelve 
years.  We are supposed to
     wonder.  And then add to that the fact that Bellatrix, the meanest 
of the mean, only hit Black, a fairly mean, powerful wizard with  what 
appears to be a
     stunning spell.  Surely she could do better than that.  Now, if 
Snape is meant to be the one who has left him forever, and Karkaroff is 
the coward, that could
     easily leave Sirius comfortably sitting in the pumpkin patch to see 
how it all came out.  Crouch denied Voldemort during his trial.  Why 
would V call Crouch
     his most faithful servant.  Sirius' discomfort at Grimauld Place 
could just as easily been caused by not being allowed out to assist 
Voldemort as from not
     being allowed to assist the Order.  In fact, Dumbledor could have 
stuck him there to keep him away from people and keep an eye on him.  
Sirius could easily
     have set Pettigrew up to be the fall guy by making him vulnerable 
to Voldemort, giving him the information to spill to Voldemort, making 
Pettigrew believe
     that he had given up the Potters.  Sirius would have wanted 
Pettigrew dead so that the whole story could not come out.  I don't 
think Lupin had a clue and
     I think that the whole dialogue at the shack was set up in such a 
way that while it seemed straight-forward, it might well not have been.

     For what it's all worth.  I can't wait for Book 6
                                                                                                                                                  
KJ








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