Harry Potter and Ender's Game

[phoenixgod2000]

No: HPFGUIDX 128127


> Alla:
> 
> I don't know, to tell you the truth, I probably would not like 
> Dumbledore treating Harry " a la Graff". It had been a long time 
> since I read "Ender's Game" and "Ender Shadow", but I do remember 
> that i thought that children  in the school and Ender most of all 
> were treated as weapons and weapons only. Yeah, I know Graf was 
> angsty, but I never really bought it, I guess.
> 
> Yes, I want Dumbledore to be honest with Harry, YES I want him to 
> finally wake 
> up and start providing Harry with some REAL training, definitely, 
> YES , I want him to express more regrets, but I want him to do it 
> more believably. 

phoenixgod2000: I did believe Graff. I never liked him all that much 
because of the hell he put Ender through, but I believed that he was 
in actual pain from how he acted.  Besides, I think that Harry would 
appreciate Graff's upfront nature and being treated somewhat like an 
adult.

Of course once he started training he'd hate Graff just as much as 
Ender, but that part's unavoidable.  Boot Camp sucks that way :) 
 
> Phoenix:
> I don't think there is much for Harry to learn from Snape except 
how 
> not to live his life. Snape isn't a war hero like Mazer, he's a 
> nearly worthless war criminal who shouldn't be allowed near 
children 
> for any reason.
> 
> 
> Alla:
> 
> I think we should team up and join the prosecution in Snape's trial 
> on Accio. :-)

Talk bad about Snape with other people. I am so there!
 
> I actually think that there are A LOT of things Harry can learn 
from 
> Snape. ( Hey, Susan, help me out here, if you are reading this 
post, 
> will you? :-)) The problem, as I see it, is that Snape is either 
> uncapable or unwilling or  both to teach Harry that.

I'm sure there plenty of things that Snape knows Harry would find 
useful, but nothing that someone else could teach Harry more 
effectively or more enjoyably.
 
> If nothing else, Snape indeed has a knowledge of Dark Side, which 
> Harry may need to defeat Voldie and Co, IMO.
 
Snape hasn't seemed to be worth the trouble as a spy so far. He 
didn't do all that much during OOTP. Now if he were doing something 
useful like poisoning Lucius Malfoy and Co, we could talk, but that's 
a seperate argument (I still say DD is a terrible general. Ender 
would've whipped Voldemort in about four minutes. Thats why he's so 
cool) 
 
> > phoenixgod2000, who has a friendly piece of advice for everyone 
> > thinking about reading the books from our posts. Only read Enders 
> > Game! the rest of the series is terrible. Trust me. I have never 
> > regret reading a book before I read Ender's shadow.
> 
> Alla, who TOTALLY agrees with this advice.

Alla, do you know what happened to OSC that made him hate the 
character of Ender? Because that is the only explanation for what he 
does to the guy.

phoenixgod2000