Whose Pensieve on HBP Cover?

[finwitch]

No: HPFGUIDX 128234

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" 
<justcarol67 at y...> wrote:
> Potioncat wrote:
> > > More important than whose pensieve is it, IMO, is whose memories
> are in it? Harry's Dumbledores? I wouldn't think they'd be looking
> into someone else's memories....uh, oh...Merlin help them if it's
> Snape's thoughts!! <snip>
> 
> 
> The Other Cheryl responded:
> > <snip> Perhaps they are looking at Harry's memories of the AK at 
GH.
> Perhaps the Pensieve and HBP contain the answer to JKR's "Why did
> Voldemort survive?" question. What would happen to someone who
> wandered into the path of an AK inside someone else's memory?
> 
> 
> Carol responds:
> I've said this before, so forgive me for repeating, but thoughts are
> not stored in a Pensieve. They are placed there by a person capable 
of
> removing them from his own head--an Occlumens. We have so far seen
> only two people capable of performing this intricate bit of magic,
> Dumbledore and Snape. Snape is not present in the HBP scene, so,
> unless Harry has learned to become a "superb Occlumens" in the time
> between the end of OoP and the HBP cover scene, the thoughts or
> memories are almost certainly Dumbledore's.

Finwitch:

I don't know if a person really needs to be an Occlumens to use a 
pensieve - even if the only people we've seen using one are. And 
since Voldemort is a Legilimens (did it say he's Occlumens anywhere? 
Harry has had quite easy access into Voldemort's head via the scar) 
it fits to the pattern of 'mark him as his equal' that Harry's one 
too.

Dumbledore is both - that twinkle in his eyes is his Occlumency 
shield. Legilimency is when Harry feels 'X-rayed' or some such. (as 
when Dumbledore asked about that entrance into the Tournament, or a 
slight one when he asks 'anything you'd like to tell me'). Harry may 
have got Legilimency with the scar - so Harry might use it when 
asking questions without even knowing he's doing it (particularly as 
he had never heard of that thing before half-way fifth book). 
Dursleys ARE uncomfortable about him asking questions (Legilimency?) -
 and how did Harry couldn't help but trust Hagrid, believe all 
those 'wizard' - things...

Finwitch