Hermione and Snape. Was: Re: Accio 2005 press releaseTrial of Snape

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Irene earlier : But the choice is not between Snape and McGonagall!
Sure, if you can have fairness on top of strictness,that's an added 
bonus.Most of the time the choice is between Snape and
Trelawney, Snape and Binns, Snape and Hagrid.
 
Alla earlier:
I am afraid I don't understand. We are talking about which teacher is 
the best teacher for Hermione, right? From ALL Hogwarts teachers, 
correct?

Irene: 
That wasn't quite what I meant. In the  context of a real-life 
school, where somebody like Hermione would be discouraged by her 
peers from demonstrating any commitment, strict teacher is much 
better than a "nice" but ineffectual one. If that strict teacher 
happens to be fair (McGonagall), that's excellent, but even if he's 
not, it's still better than the other choice.

Alla:

Oh, I got your reasoning , I think. I am afraid I have to ask you for 
canon examples,where Snape encourages Hermione to study in his calss. 
I can cite you some examples to the contrary, if you want to, where 
Snape makes Hermione shut up, oh... I don't know ... all the time. 



Irene:
No, he could not care less about the little brats' benefit. :-) It's 
just that if in the class of 30 little brats happens to be one or two 
capable students, the rest of the brats have to be scared into not 
interfering with them.

Alla:

OK, I just don't see any proof that Snape considers Hermione to be 
capable student, who needs to be encouraged and supported in her 
studying. I think that  the reason Hermione is continuing to excel in 
Potions  is herself, not "because of the teacher", but "despite one".




Alla earlier:
And the gist of mine is that for the little brats benefit Snape 
should not be allowed anywhere near them. :-)
 

Irene:
Well, his record in exam results and accidents statistics seems to be 
against this conclusion. IMHO, of course. :-)


Alla:

Oh? Have you expected Snape to say that he had poor exams record ? 
Yes, I remember Umbridge saying that his class is advanced, but that 
is  not the only criteria for good teacher as I see it.

You mentioned Shaun in this post. We had similar discussions with 
him. I remember him saying that for some children ( and for him also) 
Snape like methods worked.

That is fine, but I strongly believe that if such teacher manages at 
the same time severely traumatise some students or even ONE the price 
of such education is too high.

You see, even IF Snape manages to beat into some students 
or into many students his subject, but at the same time some of his 
students  even ONE will end up.... oh, I don't know, for RL 
comparison let's say in mental facility as a pure result of his 
actions , I would NOT consider him to be a good teacher.

I think that the best RL solution will be to hire another Potions 
master in Hogwarts AND ask students who will want to stay in class 
with Snape. 

THEN of course students won't have much to complain about, because 
they chose  to stay in his class.
My guess will be that not too many will stay though. :-)

Yes, I know that we won't have much of a story then.

Just my opinion,

Alla