LV wasn't fulfilling the Prophesy?

[gelite67]

No: HPFGUIDX 128279

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "greatelderone" 
<greatelderone at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "gelite67" <gelite67 at y...>
> wrote:
> > Angie:
> > So, you're saying that whomever "The One" is, he would not have 
> the 
> > power to vanquish Voldemort unless Voldemort marked him?  A 
> > conditional prophesy?  I don't read the prophecy that way.  The 
> > prophecy doesn't say the One will have the power IF Voldemort 
> marks 
> > him as his equal.  It says "And."  I read that as two separate 
> > occurrences.  The one who has the power to vanquish approaches 
and 
> > the Dark Lord will mark him as his equal. 
> 
> GEO: We don't know how exactly Harry would vanquish Voldemort yet
> with 
> the powers that he knows not. If however he vanquishes Voldemort 
> through either the scar or something else that was a result of that 
> Halloween Day then couldn't we assume that he became the One to 
> vanquish the Dark Lord only because Voldemort marked him?

Angie:

Maybe, after the fact.  But that's yet to be demonstrated so I don't 
accept it at this point.  :)

Angie
> 
> > Yes, I know DD said in SS that Harry will always have the scar, 
> but 
> > DD is not infallible and it is clear that he does not understand 
> > everything that's going on.
> 
> GEO: He is not infallible, but within the realm of the story, all 
> information that he gives to the reader can be viewed as nothing, 
> but the divine words of the writer. So in a nutshell, he can make
> mistakes of judgement, but not mistakes of fact.

Angie:

 Just because DD knows MORE about what's going on than anyone else, 
doesn't mean he knows everything or even that what he thinks he knows 
and understands is accurate.  Why can DD not make mistakes of facts 
like any other character? 

Examples:  

Hagrid said that Gringotts was the safest place in the world to keep 
something except for Hogwarts -- yet Voldemort penetrated both.

Griphook (minor character, but the point is the same):  said that 
anyone but a Gringott's goblin tried to open Vault 713, they'd be 
sucked into the vault and trapped there.  Didn't happen.

These two examples (which I admit are not of much consequence in the 
big scheme of things) immediately spring to mind b/c I'm rereading SS 
right now.  It just seems to me that if if JKR's characters, 
including DD, didn't make mistakes of fact, they wouldn't be human.