Hermione and Snape. Was: Re: Accio 2005 press releaseTrial of Snape

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Alla:
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I think she knows some kind of secret about Snape AND 
just as she kept Remus secret she keeps Snape's. Honestly, 
if I believed that Snape is a vampire, I would say that 
maybe Hermione somehow discovered that he is. :-)

 
Pippin:
It wouldn't surprise me to learn that Hermione has 
something on half the people in the school by now. She's a 
right little blackmailer. But if she has something on 
Snape, why hasn't she used it? She was quick enough to out 
Lupin when she thought he'd become a threat. We've also 
seen her practice her, er, unique approach to behavior 
modification on Rita Skeeter and the twins. If she thought 
Snape's behavior was as harmful as all that, wouldn't she 
do something about it? 

Alla:

Too funny, Pippin about Hermione being a right little blackmailer.:-)

Nevertheless, since I don't consider her exposing Lupin's secret 
very fast ( she kept it for at least several months), I can easily 
speculate why she keeps Snape secret, if such exists,which I believe 
it does.

She only exposed Lupin's secret when she mistakenly believed that 
Lupin threatened Harry and Ron's life.

Whatever sins Snape is guilty towards Harry ( and he is guilty of 
them, IMO and IMO only), he did not try to kill him yet ( that is 
unless he is secretly ESE! :-)), I can easily see Hermione feeling 
sorry for Snape just as she felt sorry for Lupin and kept her mouth 
shut.

There is also that incredibly annoying speech of Dumbledore's ( who 
is still a highest moral authority for Hermione, IMO). You know... I 
trust Severus Snape and all that. I can see Hermione keeping silence 
only because she thinks that Dumbledore knows best, even if she is 
indeed suspicious. Wouldn't it be funny if Hermione discovers one 
day that Dumbledore was wrong and she should have spoke up earlier 


Pippin: 
Certainly she wishes Snape would be a bit nicer. But 
bearing in mind that this is the girl who would rather 
undergo an illegal curse than miss an important lesson, I 
think Hermione must think she's getting something special
out of Snape's lessons. What is she  learning?
 
I think it's the little asides that she finds valuable, 
the things Harry and Ron pay no attention to,  either 
because they're not part of the regular course work and 
won't be on the exam, or because they think it's just Snape 
being horrible. Like, where to find the recipe for 
polyjuice potion. Or the fact that the ingredients for 
Shrinking Solution can be used to make a poison. Or that 
the Draught of Peace, with certain alterations, will put 
the drinker into an irreversible trance. The kind of thing, 
in other words, that  might be useful to know if you were 
planning  to fight Voldemort, but wouldn't need to know 
to pass your OWLs or NEWTs.


Alla:

Sure, Hermione is learning from Snape. Hermione as Shaun said 
yesterday learning from ANY teacher, even Binks. ( except Trelawney, 
yes)

At a risk of sounding as very broken record, I want to say that this 
was not my point.

Irene argued that Snape's teaching style, class environment, etc is 
the BEST one for Hermione it can be. THAT I don't see proof in canon.

I know, Pippin that asking you for canon can be a dangerous thing, 
since I can get more than I bargained for :-), but I am going to 
take a chance and ask again.

Could you or anybody else for that matter, please show me that Snape 
treats Hermione as capable student she is. That he encourages her to 
study that he sees her efforts, etc. By that I don't mean that he is 
NICE to her. It would be enough for me that he ... let's her talk in 
his class.

By the way, I don't think that Hermione's good grade counts as such 
proof . As I said I think that Hermione's learning despite Snape not 
because of him.

Just my opinion of course,

Thanks,

Alla