Why Lily, Not James? + prophecy-translation (WAS: Re: Why James, Not Lily?)

[David L.]

No: HPFGUIDX 135902

nobodysrib wrote:
Lily knows she's a horcrux and figures out a way to transfer this to
Harry; Lily's dying to save Harry transfers part of the horcrux to
Harry (via Old Magic, not via a witch or wizard`s spell); or
Voldemort`s creating-a-horcrux spell was cast on Lily but the words
used specified a GG descendent (thus easing the Lily-to-Harry
transfer, or perhaps *causing* it when Harry was born and another GG
descendent was created). The literal transference: eyes. Regardless
of scenario, Lily's eyes, part of the horcrux, are transferred to
Harry. And now Harry literally has his mothers' eyes.




The problem I have with all the living people Horcruxes that everyone seems 
to be coming up with is that we have all seem to forgotten what Dumbledore 
said about living Horcruxes. They are inadvisable as you are "confiding" 
your soul to another living entity. One of the advantages, it seems, of 
having a living Horcrux is the level of control one has over that being. It 
also seems that the risk means that being may also have control over the 
person who has given that aprt of his or her soul. This is in essence a 
possession. (I am not trying to get religious or spiritual here but it is th 
best comparison I can think of...) So I hardly think that Lily is a Horcrux 
as there is nothing to support so far that she was showing signs of such a 
possession like Ginny did witht he diary.

As for any deliberation on Lily's part when she tried to save Harry's life 
there doesn't seem to have been any conscious spell casting. In an interview 
Rowling specifically said that the differences between Lily's and James' 
death was the manner in which they made their choices and hence the nature 
of thier sacrifices. James was described by Rowling as something more 
animalistic, his family was in danger and he reacted. Lily was given a 
choice. She was asked to leave as Voldemort had no wish to kill her. She 
chose the lay down on her son and it was that conscious sacrifice, the love 
behind that action, caused the spell to rebound. She didn't do any wand 
waving or any wandless magic to evoke any protection or transfer any powers 
as I imagine she didn't have the time.

As far as turning Lily into a Horcrux I think she would have known if 
Voldemort did such a thing. It wouldn't be something you won't know. Even if 
you didn't know or suspect I imagine others would.

As for Lily being a Griffindor descendant it is plausible. It would have 
meant that her blood line were essentially squibs where the magical gene lay 
dormant for several genrations. Unlikely but not impossible on a genetics 
level. It could explain why her parents were so happy to havea witch in the 
family as the family may have known about a magical past in the family tree 
and were happy to see it return. If so it could explain some of Petunia's 
bitterness towards her sister and her nephew.

Even if Lily was a Griffindor descendant, Voldemort shows magpie tendencies. 
He likes to steal objects and not so much people. So I doubt that we have 
any human Horcruxes moving about in the world.

Up to now we still don;t know the significance of Harry's being the same 
colour as his mother's. In fact we don't even know if that was the same 
colour he was born with. The colour could be an effect of Lily's sacrifice 
and hence a visual representation of her love in him. Who knows? Maybe we'll 
see in book seven.

David L.