SHIP: [HPforGrownups] Re: Why so dissatisfied? H/G

[Melete]

No: HPFGUIDX 135919



--- templar1112002 <templar1112002 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> > Rizza wrote:
> > "I don't understand why so many readers are so
> dissatisfied with 
> the Harry/Ginny relationship. I guess one of the
> biggest reasons I 
> don't have a problem with it is because it allows me
> to use my 
> imagination."
> > 
> > Del replies:
> > And that's precisely why I have a problem with it:
> because it is 
> left entirely to our imagination. But our
> imagination is not 
> necessarily in line with JKR's intention. For
> example, what in HBP 
> prevents me from imagining an abusive relationship
> between those 
> two? What prevents me from imagining that Ginny is
> simply secretly 
> feeding Love Potion to Harry? What prevents me from
> imagining that 
> Ginny was hugely disappointed with what a romance
> with Harry really 
> looks like, after dreaming of it for so many years,
> that she was 
> actually relieved when Harry broke up with her, and
> that this is the 
> true reason she let him go so easily?
> > 
> > Those who want to imagine a perfectly happy H/G
> romance can. But 
> those who either don't want to, can't, or don't care
> to, have no 
> reason to agree that this romance is so beautiful.
> There is no canon 
> either way, so nobody's right, and nobody's wrong.
> The romance 
> between Harry and Ginny might as well not exist, it
> would be better 
> than this undefined unknown.
> > 
> > Those books are JKR's books. It is HER job to tell
> us what happens 
> in them. If I want to invent my own version of HP,
> I'll start writing
> fanfiction. If I want to see how other fans view the
> H/G romance, 
> I'll start reading fanfiction. But when I buy the
> genuine thing 
> (with very real money too), I want the genuine
> version of the 
> author. So when JKR writes that there's a romance
> going on between 
> her hero and the girl she always destined for him, I
> want HER to 
> tell me what's going on.
> > It's HER JOB.
> > 
> 
> **Marcela now:  Here posting a link for your
> "enlightening",  H/G 
> ship for Dummies.  Have a laugh, :D
> 
> http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2496472/1/
> 
> Marcela
> 

Thanks for the link Marcela, I did laugh.  I'm only
going to reiterate what others have said in this post
and in Harry vs. Ginny posts.  That it is one thing to
leave hints and write out Harry was used to Ginny
being around during the summer.  What we are asking
for is for JK to write out those scenes during the
summer.  I don't want to be told that Ginny is witty
and funny and the darling of the Quidditch team.  I
want there to be a scene where we hear one of these
jokes from her lips and we laugh along with the team. 
For example, when we have Luna commentating the
Quidditch match we can see that she is dreamy, a bit
spacey and unintentionally funny because we are
experiencing her comments along with Harry.  Instead
of an aside, that runs something like Ginny mocks and
imitates her brother - cue laughter.  

If we are to care for this character she needs to
become more than an abstract idea for us.  The only
way an author can do that is by bringing the character
to the page for us and allowing us to meet them by
hearing their words, watching them interact with
others, seeing them react.  

IMO, we are not given enough time to care for this
character more than beyond an abstraction (Ron's
little sister, Harry's girlfriend).  We are not given
the opportunity to care for Ginny for her own
qualities.  For her to be such an important character
to Harry, I think there needs to be a ratio of more
time devoted to her in the book.  It's not an issue of
not liking Ginny.  It's an issue of not knowing Ginny.
 It's poor writing to say Ginny's a clever, powerful
witch.  It's better writing to have us witness moments
of her brilliance, to see her perform the bat bogey
hex (and hopefully more than just the one hex at
that.)

And as for filling in with your imagination, of course
that is fun as a fan.  But isn't it better to have
moments to reflect on and reread.  A moment perhaps
when Harry takes Ginny out by the lake and he blushes
and rubs his head recalling how he never thought of
her as more than just Ron's little sister before this
year.  Ginny replies perhaps with a wry turn of her
mouth that she's certainly thought of him as more than
an older brother.  They recall a moment at the Burrow
where he notices something nice about her and she
replies in kind.  If that would have happened, I think
I might have softened my opinion of Ginny a great
deal.  But it didn't.

That isn't to say that I don't like HBP.  If you were
to subtract how that little piece of the plot was
handled, I would say I liked the book overall better
than GOF.  It's just that little bit of incompleteness
that leaves me somewhat dissatisfied.

Humbly submitted as just my opinion

Ellyddan

ps If I were to ship H/G, I would be disappointed and
want to demand more time for the characters to
interact.  Ginny deserves her own amount of shine
time.


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