Explanations but no facts (was Re: Mr. Snape, not Saint Snape

[juli17 at aol.com]

No: HPFGUIDX 136026




Julie says:
> Oh, and Dumbledore's changed  tone came about as Snape walked onto
the scene, *before* Snape and  Dumbledore even had eye contact. 
 



dan:
>From HBP - The Lightning Struck Tower
"Draco, do it,  or stand aside so one of us -" screeched the woman, but
at that precise  moment the door to the ramparts burst open once more
and there stood Snape,  his wand clutched in his hand as his black eyes
swept the scene, from  Dumbledore slumped against the wall, to the four
Death Eaters, including  the enraged werewolf, and Malfoy.
"We've got a problem, Snape," said the  lumpy Amycus, whose eyes and
wand were fixed alike upon Dumbledore, "the  boy doesn't seem able -"

>From OOP - Chapter 24
"Eye contact is OFTEN  essential to Legilimency." (my emphasis)

Enough room for a possible  betrayal, and time to spot it, by
legilimency. But, even more importantly,  if so obvious as to be
missed, this is the first time Snape has talked  about his being on the
side of the DE in from of Dumbledore! How long would  it take Albus to
figure out how closely Snape has been working with them,  given their
deference to him? By telling Snape the boy doesn't seem to be  able to
kill Dumbledore, they are asking Snape for advice,  assistance,
whatever. Doesn't that count for anything? Wouldn't that  constitute a
big surprise for Albus?

At any rate, changing sides is  also in keeping with Snape's
established  character.

dan


Julie says:
 I'm not sure why you think Snape being addressed by a fellow  DE
is something significant. And why would DD need to figure out how
closely Snape's been working with the DEs, when it was *DD* who
sent Snape back to them in GoF? The DEs are SUPPOSED to 
think Snape is on their side, so why would DD be surprised by a
DE turning to Snape for advice/assistance?
 
So, no, I don't think it counts for anything, and DD's not surprised
at all that the DEs assume Snape is on their side. And though it 
is possible DD was reading Snape's mind via Legilimency even 
before their eyes met, there's certainly nothing in the text that
conclusively points to it. And if DD isn't previously suspicious of
Snape and is in fact completely surprised by Snape's "betrayal"
then it actually doesn't make sense for him to be legilimensing
Snape at this point. 
 
Julie 
 


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