Harry, Ginny, and age appropriateness / Abusive Harry (combined answer)
sienna291973
jujupoet29 at hotmail.com
Tue Aug 2 23:16:32 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 136130
Marianne:
I think there are some things that the author intends readers to not
sure which choice to make... as in Who is R.A.B. or Is Snape Evil or
Good or Somewhere In Between? But, she has also met with incredulity
the fact that people make choices she never intends ... i.e. Harry/
Hermione or Luna/Neville or Sirius/Lupin as "ships". I can only
imagine that if she were to know that someone so fervently believes
that the relationship between Harry and Ginny is abusive and a poor
example especially for her adolescent girl audience (including her own
adolescent daughter).. she might wonder if they were reading the same
book, and perhaps hope that person just makes the choice to not read
the books if they choose to see the hero as an abuser.
Sienna:
With all due respect Marianne :) but I it is dangerous to suggest
that what a person sees in a narrative is merely a matter of choice.
I can choose to ignore what my psyche tells me about a text and
simply try to find what the author wants me to see, but to do so
would require a suspension of disbelief on my part and a cessation of
brain activity to boot. In addition, as I have said repeatedly,
Rowling has become far too used to being able to explain herself
outside of canon for my liking. What if I had *never* read or seen
her transcript explaining what she thinks about romance and who Ginny
was *supposed* to be and had only her books to go by? What then would
I deduce? I certainly wouldn't have the foggiest idea what the author
*meant* to say, I would only be able to tell you what I picked up
from it. And I think all of those alternative interpretations are
useful and should be encouraged.
By way of example if I as a person behave in a certain way, which I
think is compassionate, but a third party comes along and tells me
that actually I am being very patronising, who is right? By your
argument I am right because I *intended* to be compassionate and I
could tell them so. But was I really? And even if I tell them, does
that mean they should necessarily buy it? Doesn't the behaviour
itself speak louder that my intention? Perhaps I have an issue I am
in denial over or do not wish to confront something and instead
subconsciously choose to masquarade patronising with compassion.
Similarly, I think it is absolutely mandatory that we question
whether Rowling's canon actually matches what she thought she was
portraying or saying to young girls. And it is adults like us, not
children who are already at the whim of too much stereotypical and
misogynistic media, who are in the best position to analyse it.
Although I think Del's example is extreme, I can defifinitely see the
point being made. I actually think that Rowling has succeeded in
being far *less* subversive of traditional female roles than she
intended and that the subtext, even allowing for third party-limited
point of view, is extremely patriarchal at its core. And even though
I prefer the Ron and Hermione dynamic in HBP a thousand times more
than the Harry and Ginny one, I have some small problems with that
too that should probably be analysed in the fullness of time.
Just my opinion.
Sienna
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