Snape as the One in Prophecy (was Re: Snape Moratorium)

[spotsgal]

No: HPFGUIDX 136306

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "hermionegallo"
<hermionegallo at y...> wrote:
> snipped:
> Sharkbait <snikker000 at y...> wrote:
> > > 
> I think Snape is part of the prophecy.  this part, (OotP pg.841)
"The
> one with the power to vanquish the dark lord approaches..." Snape
was
> caught outside the door when Trelawny was making that prophecy.
> 
> 
> hg:
> Snape's birthday is January 9.

Christina:

We were talking about this a few days ago, and whoever it was that
started the threat (I'm so sorry I can't remember who it was!) said
that since the "dies" is metaphoric, the "born" could be also.  As in,
a rebirth of sorts; As the seventh month *ends*, Harry enters the
world, Snape realizes that Voldy is going to go for the Potters, and
it snaps him out of "Death Eater" mode and sends him to Dumbledore. 
This is, of course, assuming that Snape was honestly remorseful when
he approached Dumbledore and that it was the realization of Voldy's
interpretation of the prophecy that lead him to switch sides (and that
he actually *has* switched sides).  Not totally out of the question,
IMO.

What I find interesting is the "power the Dark Lord knows not." 
Someone before suggested Occlumency, and that got me to thinking- does
LV really know how good an Occlumens Snape is?  He can't possibly.  If
someone could tell if another person was using Occlumency, then they
could demand that the person "open their mind" to them until they
couldn't detect the technique being used anymore (and only then
believe what they say).  So it must be impossible to detect whether
Occlumency is being employed or not.  This would make sense with what
we've learned about the nature of Occlumency-- it's not as much
putting up a wall, it's emptying your mind of anything a Legilimens
could want to find in the first place.

Lupin makes a comment at the end of HBP about Snape's skills as an
Occlumens, but if there's no way to tell when someone is using the
skill, it'd be easy for both DD *and* LV to say, "Well, I *must* be a
better Legilimens than he is an Occlumens, so no worries."


Christina