Snape as having been loved (sorry about that)

greenfirespike feenyjam at msu.edu
Thu Aug 4 18:41:50 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 136428


> Sherry said:
> 
> Actually, Lily was a muggle born, not a half blood.  Snape called 
her a
> "mudblood" which is a horrible name to call a muggle born witch or 
wizard.
> If nothing else, that makes me doubt the idea that Snape and Lily 
were ever
> in love, friends or dating.  
> 


Greenfirespike says:

Sherry, you are correct.  I am sorry about that!  Lilly is muggle 
born, and not a half blood.  My faulty line of thinking went: that 
Lilly and James became close in Slughorn's class.  That she reached 
out to him because he was perhaps getting some slack for being a half-
blood.  She, being muggle born, also got slack from the Slytherin 
students and gave Snape the nickname as a means of forming a 
connection between them.  As we know, Lilly was always kind to 
everyone she met.  Thus, I mis-typed when I wrote that Lilly was a 
half blood.  


Colebiancardi said (with quote from eggplant107): 

> > sorry, have to disagree. In OotP, after Snape calls her a racist 
name and James threatens Snape to apologized to Lily, Lily states to 
James "I don't want you to make him apologize. You're as bad as he 
is..." meaning she didn't think very highly of either Snape or James.
>
If you knew nothing about Ron and Hermione and then watched one of 
their big fights you might think they hated each other too and say it 
was imposable for them to be very good friends one year later.


> >I think in the context of the scene, it speaks volumes. This 
wasn't a fight between Lily and Snape, it was a fight between Lily & 
James - which is closer to the Ron/Hermione relationship. Lily just 
dismissed Snape - don't forget Lupin states that Lily was kind to 
everyone. And Ron never, ever, ever called Hermoine a racist name. 
NEVER. Snape had no problemos there. To say Snape loved Lily is like 
saying Draco loves Hermoine(and I know there is a lot of fan-fic out 
there).


Greenfirespike returns to say: 

I think that Snape had to experience some type of love, and the 
leading persons are his mother, father, or Lilly.  When TR came to 
Hogwarts he was well liked by both staff and classmates, but he had 
never known love prior.  So perhaps by the time he arrived at 
Hogwarts he has already made himself incapable of love.  Whereas, 
Snape may have had a slightly more normal childhood prior to 
Hogwarts.  Thus, while TR had quite a successful and rather 
uneventful Hogwarts career with respect to problems with peers, Snape 
had himself a rather unpleasant career at Hogwarts; including maybe 
feelings for Lilly (even is small).  Thus, Snape saw the dark arts as 
a means to obtain power he sought and perhaps vindication towards his 
enemy peers (the Maruaders).  I also think that Snape calls Lilly a 
mudblood more because of rejected feelings for her, not simply 
because he hates mudbloods.  Snape is very selective about who he 
likes and dislikes, and it is not entirely based off of blood 
lineage.  







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