Fake Wand = Fake Death

Pat 5682574 at sbcglobal.net
Fri Aug 5 05:42:26 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 136519

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "bohcoo" <sydenmill at m...> 
wrote:
> ...snip..Has anyone considered the possibility that the wand used 
by Snape to "kill" Dumbledore might have been one of Fred's and 
George's fake ones?  These wands were introduced prominently and 
mentioned repeatedly for a reason -- yet they have not played much 
of a significant part in the plot so far....snip... ("Amuse your 
friends, scare your enemies -- try one of our Wingardium Kedavra 
wands. By the time your attackers realize the trick, you will have 
had time to make a clean escape.")
> 
> After being hit, Dumbledore appears to be genuinely killed, flies 
up in the air and falls "over the battlements and out of sight" 
(page 596) -- where, unseen, he transforms into a wasp or bumblebee 
or whatever his Animagus is -- and floats peacefully to the ground. 

Pat:  
If his Patronus is a Phoenix, which Jo said it is, then his Animagus 
form would be a Phoenix, too, and that works. Works for flying away 
during the funeral, too. And there's Draught of the Living Dead, 
which we've never seen used...

>bochoo continued: Harry "had known there was no hope from the 
moment the full Body-Bind Curse Dumbledore had placed on him lifted, 
known it could have happened only because its caster was dead..." 
>(page 608) Or, because Dumbledore himself released it as he landed 
gently on the ground and resumed his normal form. 
> 
> Later, Hagrid scoops Dumbledore up ...snip... and takes him 
somewhere...snip... and Snape, still loyal to DD, comes back around 
later and gives the antidote for the cave potion.
>> 
> Also, notice the similarity in these descriptions:
> 
> "Hating himself, repulsed by what he was doing, Harry forced the 
> goblet back toward Dumbledore's mouth and tipped it..." (page 571)
> "Snape gazed for a moment at Dumbledore, and there was revulsion 
and hatred etched in the harsh lines of his face." (page 595)
> 
> These identical feelings of hatred and revulsion, in my opinion, 
were felt the same by Snape and Harry, not toward the man but rather 
> toward the deed at hand.
> 
> ...snip...Poor old Snape...snip...forced to leave 
hogwarts...snip... > 
bohcoo

Pat:  
I hadn't thought of a fake wand, but you may have put the last piece 
in the puzzle for me, because the rest of it was the same as I was 
thinking.

I think Snape told Dumbledore about Draco's mission and the 
Unbreakable Vow, because Dumbledore dismissed or had no reaction to 
the things Harry was trying to tell him about this.  I think 
Dumbledore had a plan to allow Draco to go into hiding, and Snape 
was in on it.  I think many things that were only mentioned in 
previous books are going to play a role in book 7.  Tons of them, 
like the locket, Lily's eyes, Viktor, SPEW, Harry's watch stopping 
in the lake, it goes on and on.  As far as the fake wands, you could 
be right.  The twins have everything from cute pets to defensive 
items the the MoM wants to use, so why not.

I think Snape is mostly on his own side, and going back into 
Voldemort's service full time was not what he wanted to do.  It's 
possible that's what he meant when he told Dumbledore he assumed too 
much. Anyone have a clue where that part is to get an exact quote?

And speaking of the mystery that is Snape, in earlier books, we 
couldn't figure out why he was protecting Harry at Hogwarts, yet 
hated him.  I haven't been able to keep up with a fraction of the 
Snape and Horcrux posts, but has it been discussed that if Harry is 
a Horcrux, Snape was protecting a Horcrux, and not necessarily 
Harry?  And if so, we still wouldn't know if he wanted to, or was 
bound to do it.









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