Re: SHIP: “Emma”, Twists, and HBP

[phoenixgod2000]

No: HPFGUIDX 136671

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "evilnuff" <EvilNuff at y...> 
wrote:

> Just because you did not and still do not see something does not 
mean it is not there.

<snip>

> She flat out admits that she planned and forshadowed both 
Harry/Ginny and Ron/Herm. relationships all along.  Personally as I 
read the books these seemed like the obvious pairings, if others do 
not see them that's fine just don't delude yourself into thinking 
something does not exist just because you don't see it especially 
when the author flat out tells you it exists! :)
> -David

True. My problem with the shipping stems from the fact that she uses 
entirely different types of foreshadowing for the two ships. I also 
saw R/Hr because it was written as foreshadowing within the story. 
Ron clearly gets jealeous of Hermione and she seems to express 
feelings for him in return. Its something the characters are doing.

In Harry/Ginny, the foreshadowing is outside the characters. Its 
something that is born out of literary convention. he saves Ginny 
from the dragon, just like the hero does in the stories, She beats 
Cho at quiddich therefore establishing herself as superior to his 
current love interest, she give him chocolate, which is a symbol of 
love or sex or something like that (have to ask the H/Gers about that 
one). Its' stuff that the reader might be able to divine based on 
having read other stories, but it isn't really born out of character 
interaction. Of course in HBP she gets into the H/G anvils, but it 
seems more sudden because there aren't five books of in character 
tension like there is between R/Hr.

Contrast that to someone like Luna. H/L defies every literay 
convention. Heroes get the princess, not the maid, he gets the 
beauty, not the outcast.  But despite that H/L has a huge (and still 
remarkably strong) fanbase because there are textual clues that Harry 
and Luna have chemistry. You have his fascination with her appearance 
(he notices details about her that he doesn't notice about anyone, 
including Ginny), you have their increasing friendship over OOTP 
culminating with the great scene at the end where she comforts him. 
Even in HBP which is H/G centric there are some gem H/L moments that 
show great chemstry between the two of them. In a single book, JKR 
creates a character who became a plausible dark horse contender for 
Harry's affections. She couldn't have done that if the H/G anvils 
were as giantsized as she thought they were.

I hope there is an emma like ship twist in the final book.  And I 
hope it's with Luna.

phoenixgod2000, whose favorite pairing is H/L and still has some hope 
for it.