Spinner's End in Real Life (and a trailor tip)
Geoff Bannister
gbannister10 at aol.com
Sat Aug 6 06:58:23 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 136688
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "saraquel_omphale"
<saraquel_omphale at y...> wrote:
> "potioncat" <willsonkmom at m...> wrote:
> > Back when everyone was guessing about Spinner's End, someone came
up
> > with a real life location in an industrial area of England. Does
> > anyone recall that? It was possibly an old, no longer used
address
> or
> > place name.
Saraquel:
> Hi Potioncat, it might have been me, I know I wrote about the
> possible location of Spinner's End in answer to a post about Hagrid
> taking baby Harry to Snape's house before going to the Dursley's.
> Anyway, the description of the type of houses and the mill chimney
are
> classic north of England. Manchester (in the then county of
> Lancaster) was the centre of the cotton milling industry and was
the
> cradle of the industrial revolution. Leeds was the centre of the
wool
> industry. The Spinning Jenny (a mechanised loom) was invented in
the
> mid to late 18th Century and caused riots, as before that time,
people
> had spun cloth in their homes. But it's invention (plus steam
> technology) brought about the building of mills to process both
wool
> and cotton. This originated in the slave trade to the West Indies
and
> Southern United States in the 17th/18th century. As you know,
cotton
> was grown, which was then shipped back to England and arrived in
the
> port of Liverpool. It was then taken up the Manchester Ship Canal
and
> processed in and around the city.
>
> The wool industry was based on the other side of the range of hills
> that runs up the centre of England (The Pennines) The centre was
> Leeds, but also towns like Halifax, Huddersfield and Wakefield (in
the
> county of Yorkshire).
Geoff:
A couple of points.
(1) Back in the early post-HBP days(!), I wrote in message 132927:
"Spinner's End. We still don't know where it is. But the ruined
chimney and the name of the road make me think of a Lancashire cotton
town I grew up in one. Workers in the mills were sometimes called
weavers or spinners. This chapter though, for me, was a real eye-
opener so early in the book."
Just to enlarge a fraction on that comment, my mother (and also my
maternal grandfather) both worked in the cotton weaving industry
before she was married and I recall living in the sort of terrace
houses Saraquel mentioned in Burnley, in North-east Lancashire, until
I was 9.
(2) Referring back to Spinners End as a name, I would recommend that
if you go back to message 116875, thread title "What we find there",
Steve kicked off discussion on the whereabouts of this place when it
was first revealed as a chapter name round about the end of October
last year. The names of an industrial estate in Cradley Heath in the
West Midlands and an area in Weston-Super-Mare in North Somerset
featured in the discussion. It is interesting to re-read these
threads in hindsight.
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