What Dark Arts?

M.Clifford Aisbelmon at hotmail.com
Sat Aug 6 11:38:17 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 136704

 
  Alla:
  
  Hmm, Harry was definitely in danger of being seduced by Dark Arts in 
  HBP, IMO. Just like Ginny was in CoS.
  
  Isn't it interesting that Snape could care less about it though?
  
  I am trying to figure out why  Snape did not tell Dumbledore about 
  that book of his, which Harry has and cannot find the answer except  -
  Snape was saving his own skin.
  
  Again, speculating here.
 
 colebiancardi:
 Oh, I think Dumbledore knew a lot about Snape and what he was like at
 Hogwarts - I don't think that escaped his attention.  and I also think
 that DD asked Snape to put that book in Slughorn's reserves, for
 Harry.  As we know, Harry didn't expect to take advanced potions in
 his 6th year, as Snape only wanted Outstanding students.  But since DD
 got Slughorn, he knew that Harry could get back into that class.  He
 didn't tell Harry about what Slughorn was teaching deliberatly, IMHO,
 so that Harry would not buy the book and would be forced to get
 Snape's book.  
 
 Since Snape was a DE, I don't think DD would have been shocked or
 surprised at his book, so the excuse that Snape didn't *want* DD to
 know about it is weak - but just my opinion.  
 

Valky:
OOooH LOL I Love your puppetmaster!DD theory cole. Yeah I like it a lot. 

Although I like PM!DD and Magic Dishwasher long time fan, I be. In my
own musing I add a slight twist that DD leaves some of it, somewhat,
to calculated chance. I have a cross Puppetmaster/Statistician DD
mostly. So In my mind DD will have definitely had some knowledge of
Snapes potions book, and the genius within it, some deduced idea that
it was in the possession of Slughorn, and since Slughorn is such a
highly predictable fellow, had given a high probability to the chance
of Ron or Harry managing to gain possession of Snapes book. 

And Why?

Now here's some speculation on the canon. In OOtP Harry tells Lupin
and Sirius about his encounter with Snapes worst Memory, and his huge
loss of faith in his father that followed especially after Sirius and
Lupin were against a wall as to how to help Harry understand deeper
levels of the relationship with feeble words such as James hated Dark
Arts and Snape Hexed him too etc. 

The Occlumency lessons ended prematurely and OOtP ended with Harry
terribly confused about his relationship with SS and the meanings
behind these infamous events (the prank, SWM, Lily and James love,
Sirius and Snape's hate which seemed to eventually lead to Sirius
death..etc). So DD considered his options and decided it would be wise
to bring several variables together in his next moves. And, fate
willing, Harry would have access to the kind of information that would
help him in the long term to make his own mind up about Snape based on
the truth. 

It's pretty apparent that the relationship between Sevvie and Harry
has been considered rather important from the start by DD. Harry was
made to endure years of Snapes ill feelings, and Snape likewise made
to endure years of the very face that haunts the bitter recollections
of worst memories. And in spite of these things Harry and Snape have
been gathered together year after year.. 

Perhaps the reasons for this gently pressured relationship are a key
thematic issues. We already know now that Snape overheard the
prophecy. And we know that DD's reason for trusting him has
*something* to do with Voldies Plan to go after Harry and his parents. 

Is there some natural law in the WW that obliges those that hear a
prophecy to be active in fulfilling it. So far *all* the active
listeners bar *one* (Aberforth) have been entirely instrumental in
bringing the prophecy to fulfillment. Not unlike the prophecy heard in
POA by Harry, which was machinated to fulfillment by several of
Harry's own actions (Going after Sirius thereby revealing Peter,
Sparing Peter's life, unfortunately enabling him to escape.) 

Are we to yet be told that Snape is an instrument of the Prophecy, and
so it was imperative, and so very very important that Harry know the
real Snape, and ironically after seeing him commit possibly the worst
deed of his life, still feel some level of kinship toward him via the
companionship throughout the year of his younger self captured in the
HBP Potions book.

Harry didn't take Newt divination, but Trelawney was adamant that he
really should have done. Is it possible that on some obscure level she
was right? Perhaps Luna will impart some jewel of wisdom about the
fulfillment of a prophecy upon Harry later in the next year when she
has begun her Newt lessons (If Hogwarts opens that is).  

Just some wild speculation and stuff really.

Valky
Who worked on introducing the Prophecy Instrument theory two years ago
but never finished.






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