Horcrux Killing (was Because it's dead. Re: Dumbledore's wounded hand)

[M.Clifford]

No: HPFGUIDX 136722


> > Ok, so definitely, like DD said he paid a price *worth* 1/7 of
> > Voldemorts soul. And a partial death, or even full death, seems to
> > ring true of the sacrifice Voldemort would force upon his would-be
> > conquerers if he could manage it, and a sacrifice that someone of
> > Dumbledores immense nobility, and calibre would be able to make in
> > exchange for the lives of the people he loves.
> > 
> > That's all folks..
> > Valky


> Cindy: 
> So the "crux" of the matter here is that you are saying to destroy 
> each Horcrux, there is going to have to be (or resulting in due to 
> the wicked spells protecting each horcrux) a deadly sacrifice? 

Valky:
Uhh yeah, I think so. If Voldie has anything to do with it LOL. I
would say that it's virtually imperative that life will be forced to
be given to destroy him. He certainly believes the threat of death is
a most powerful weapon so I fully assume he'd use it to his utmost
advantage.  

Cindy:
> I'd have to agree it certainly seems to be going in that 
> direction...

Valky:
Yeah. I think the strongest canon argument to it is DD's comment about
Toms style. Its repetitive essentially, but the magic is so great and
terrible that the repeating versions of it are plenty formidable.
Toms style DD which DD seems to pick admirably in the cave is:

1. Bloodletting - Weaken the Opponent
2. Two powerful wizards on the boat sinks it. - Filter out formidable
Opponents 
3. Virtually impossible to drink potion, weakens and incapacitates the
drinker, certainly cannot be done alone - Reduce the numbers and
strength of Opponents.
4. The Inferi - Have a cavalry of deadly servants  

By calculation these are formidable protections. The fact that they
fail to recognise the key strengths of brave people such as DD and
Harry who are capable of giving all of themselves to the task, is
close to their only weakness.

Seeing that DD can deduce so well *Tom's* Style, I think that it is
within our grasp to likewise deduce Voldemorts style which to my
reckoning would be (thanks to DD's clues):

1. Cruelty - The will to destroy anything that stands in his way -
Hence an inclination for the Horcrux to viciously protect itself by
wiping out the oppositions to its weapon (eg the Roosters in COS)
2. Secrecy - The Weapons and Bodyguards - Hence such as the Basilisk
or the Ring Curse suddenly and unexpectedly striking the Horcrux
Holder and other opposition.
3. Domination - The ability of the Horcux to possess anything it needs
in order to live.

And from what we've learned in Canon: Voldemort thinks there is
nothing worse than death - Hence his all three of these styles of
Voldemort ultimately are intended to protect the Horcrux upon the
threat of death to anyone who tries to conquer it.

Cindy:
> Basilisk's death:  Used fang to destroy Diary (remember that line in 
> COS where it states Harry picked up the fang, like he "meant to do 
> it all along"--some kind of sixth sense about using the fang on the 
> diary)
> 
> "Death" of DD's hand:  Ring destroyed--probably would have killed DD 
> if he wasn't so skilled. 
> 
> Possible death of RAB:  In an attempt to destroy the locket? 

Valky:
Oh yeah I never looked at it that way, and I am glad you did Cindy.
Now you mention it, yes, there was a death in the Chamber which would
explain to me why neither Ginny nor Harry had to die to destroy the
Diary, which didn't sit well with me because I was almost sure that
Voldemort would somehow force a death, no matter what. As for the
possible death of R.A.B., now that *does* make a lot of sense Cindy,
well thought out, I say. Voldie's locket would gladly kill anyone who
tried to make it give up its treasure, that's its job. And checking
down the list of Voldemorts style, DD had enough trouble with the
first two protections so I imagine another wizard, after all we are
lead to understand that DD is considerably talented, another wizard
might not even survive the first one. (Regulus and Roosters)
It doesn't bode well for Harry does it? Makes you wonder if perhaps he
*should* be an unintentional Voldie Horcrux, and count his lucky stars
that he is. Another case of Voldie giving Harry the tools for the
job.. lol.

 
> Cindy:
> Many hundreds of directions to go in with that theory...interesting! 
> 

Gosh yes, thanks for the reply Cindy.
 
Valky
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