Missing Horcrux = Ravenclaw's

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No: HPFGUIDX 137027

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "esmith222002" <c.john at i...> 
wrote:
> Jujube wrote: 
> > 3.  The symbols of these elements are:  cup, pentacle, rod, and 
> sword.
> > 
> > 5. The 4 symbolic items already correspond to 3 known items which 
> > come from the founders: the pentacle (locket--Slytherin), the cup
> > (Hufflepuff) and the sword(Gryffindor), 2 of which we know are 
> > Horcruxes and one of which--the sword--we know is not a Horcrux 
and 
> > is not going to be one.
> > 
> > 7. The "missing item" from the Tarot card is the wand.
> 
> Fantastic post!! My major problem with it is that the ring and the 
> locket were both hidden in places that were symbolic to Voldemort 
> and were protected by powerful magic. 

On the other hand, the diary was in Lucius Malfoy's possession and he 
managed to pass it to Ginny contrary to Voldemort's wishes.

> If he had managed to get hold of Ravenclaw's wand, how and why
> would he leave it with Ollivander? He clearly doesn't want anyone
> to know about his Horcruxes, so it seems unlikely that he would
> confide in Ollivander.

A few points:

1.  We don't know which "side" Ollivander is on.

2.  He left the diary with Lucius, and I do not think Lucius knew 
that it was a Horcrux.

3.  At least 2 Death Eaters handled Horcruxes:
    a.  Lucius and the diary (I sound like a broken record).
    b.  RAB and the locket

4.  At least some of the Death Eaters knew what the Horcruxes were:
    a.  In GoF Voldemort says, and I'm paraphrasing, "You, who knew 
what steps I took to ensure my immortality."
    b.  From the note he left in the locket, RAB knew what a Horcrux 
was, that the locket was a Horcrux, and how to undo the spell to 
steal it.

 
> If we are considering Tarot cards;
> 
> The High Priestess, or Female Pope. A woman crowned with a high
> mitre or TIARA (her head encircled by a veil), a stole (or a solar
> cross) upon her breast, and the Book of Science open in her hand.
> She represents Science, Wisdom, or Knowledge (i.e. RAVENCLAW).
> 
> Harry places a TIARA on top of an old bust as a means to refind his 
> potions book in the Room of Requirement. Therefore it is possible 
> that VOldemort HAS placed one of his Horcruxes in the Room of 
> Requirement!!

Yes, I know both of those things.  But The Magus card holds the 4 
symbols without having to go and import other symbols from other 
cards.  This is what makes me lean toward the wand v. the tiara.  
IMO, the books are much much much more straightforward than some 
folks give them credit for.  IMO more complicated theories--like 
having to reference additional tarot cards to make items work--seem 
out of place in JKR's style.  There's an overarching theme at work, a 
well-knit system of symbols from alchemy, mythology, and the like, 
but IMO getting from point A to point B in her story is ususally 
easier than harder.

That being said, I do think the presence of the tiara is curious.  
But sometimes, as Dumbledore says, a mouth organ is just a mouth 
organ.

jujube