for whom are the books named?, Re: Possible message in Evil!Snape

pippin_999 foxmoth at qnet.com
Wed Aug 10 16:01:46 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 137150

Lupinlore:
> Perhaps that wisdom is different than intelligence?  That in the
end 
> we have to make up our own minds, and not let others tell us how to 
> think and whom to trust -- even if the person telling us is as kind 
> as Lupin or as intelligent as Dumbledore?  That in the end we only 
> have our own experiences and judgment upon which to fall back, when 
> all else fails us?  Very valuable lessons all, and if Harry has 
> learned them they will serve him extremely well.

Pippin:
Harry's always relied on his own judgement. What he has to learn is
what to base that judgement on. In every single one of the books,
his misjudgements, based on prejudice and hearsay,  have led him into 
a tight spot and some grownup has had to bail him out or at least,
as in PoA or HBP, keep him from making a terrible mistake.

But I think you are right, and the principle adults in the story have
already made the choices that show what they are, with the exception
of Pettigrew, who obviously has something important to do.

It is for Harry to discern that and judge them, and he will get it
wrong,  again and again and again, until he learns to *open* his mind
and make decisions based on the pertinent evidence.

He has plenty of evidence that Snape is a bully and a sadist, and was
a racist at one time. What he saw in HBP is that whether someone
is any of those things  should not be judged  pertinent
to the question of whether that someone is a killer. 

I think the structure of Book Seven will resemble GoF -- a joyous
Weasley occasion marred by Death Eater activity, followed by four
extracurricular tasks corresponding to the four elements, then  the
finale (with false and genuine climaxes), and the epilogue. That
leaves plenty of room for the  activities of the order or ex-order 
members we know are in contact with Voldemort's camp: Snape, 
Lupin and Pettigrew. I don't think any of them has a vested interest
in Voldemort's immortality, so any of them might sneak Harry some 
information on winning horcruxes, just as Voldie loyalist Barty Jr 
helped Harry get through the tasks.

But in the end, the trick, as Harry said, will be finding Voldie.
Only the Dumbledore loyalist(s)  will want Voldemort
dead.  That's where Harry's going to  have to decide who's really 
Dumbledore's man and who isn't. 

He will need help getting to that point though, I think-- it's one of
his  strengths, and Voldemort's weaknesses, that Harry can work with 
others. He needs to remember that he has friends.  In fact, if Harry
had included  Dobby in his plans , the whole fiasco at the end of HBP
might  have been avoided. 

Pippin






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