DoubleAgent!Lupin was Re: Lupin as metaphor (was SHIP and RL experiences)

[pippin_999]

No: HPFGUIDX 137152

> Pippin
> >>The smoking wand is the disappearance of Fenrir. Last we
> saw, he was stupefied. He didn't escape with Snape, and yet he
> seems to be still at large; at least, if he'd been captured, I can't
> imagine Rufus Scrimgeour not bringing it up as he tries to
> persuade Harry to help the Ministry.
> 
> CathyD now:
> Scrimgeour is only pointing out to Harry that he (the Ministry)
knows that someone was up on that Tower with DD and Stupified 
(Petrified) a Death Eater, and that he believes it was Harry.  
He had no need to tell Harry, at that moment, about Greyback being 
taken into custody (if he was) he was still just trying to get info,
about Dumbledore,out of Harry.  He was more interested in info at
that moment than trying to get Harry onside with the Ministry.  
That came well after.  

Pippin:
But Harry makes it quite clear that he's not interested in talking to
Scrimgeour while Stan Shunpike is in jail. If R.S. had a prominent
DE capture to brag about, why care about Shunpike? Fenrir is 
notorious, he's threatened countless people, according to Lupin. 

And the stupefied Death Eater, who was nailed by Harry as he
left the tower, is not Fenrir, who was petrified at the base of it.


Wouldn't somone in the hospital wing have said, Hey, at least we
got  Fenrir? I  think that Fenrir was probably petrified by the same
person who rescued him -- otherwise the person who did it would have 
wondered what happened to him. Snape gave a rationale 
for why he either had to stay out of battles or appear to be fighting
on Dumbledore's side which would hold just as true for
Doubleagent!Lupin. And Fenrir was attacking Harry at the time, which
the DE's were forbidden to do.

> Sherry
> >>Besides, i can't bear to think
> of how Harry would feel if it ended up being true! his father's last
> remaining friend, a traitor.
> 
> CathyD again:
> Especially since Peter Pettigrew already did that game.  

Pippin:
Ah, but what if Peter wasn't a willing spy at all, but only the
reluctant betrayer of the secret? Dumbledore doesn't seem to be 
very upset about Peter's escape; he says Harry will be glad of it one
day. 

I think Dumbledore knew all along that Peter wasn't the spy. It makes
even less sense now that a non-Occlumens could get away with spying 
on Dumbledore for a year.

Kathy:
 My best guess would be Tonks who still works at the Ministry with
the Aurors.  

Pippin:
Yes, I'm afraid she's being placed under Imperius and made to do the 
real spy's bidding. What was she doing outside the RoR, when DD's
office is on the other side of the castle?

Pippin